intense soreness after IM test pinning

[spade93]

I've read a lot of posts on people getting muscle pain/soreness after pinning, but I just wanted to be sure this is normal. This is my first cycle, and first pin.

First of all, I made the stupid mistake of pinning 250mg of test e rather than splitting it (250mg per 1mL). I pinned in my quad (the correct spot) because people only said they hated the needle pain. I felt absolutely nothing while pinning, or immediately following. However, around 4 hours later, I started to get pretty sore to the point where limping was a natural reflex. At first it felt like i got punched in that one specific spot. Today (about 36 hours later) it was like a really intense muscle soreness in that whole vicinity (upper quad).

Is this normal for "virgin muscles"? I'm very lean (about 9% or less), used a 23g 1" needle. There is no redness, swelling, or itchiness. And no fever. Really no signs of an infection at all. Just a rippin' quad muscle.

Sorry for the noob post, but I just wanted to be sure. Thanks!

 

[DexterMorgan]

So your cycle consists of 250 of test-e/week? what else is in there?
Soreness is common, I would't worry too much about. Next time hold your syringe steady, make sure your hands are not shaking.

 

[spade93]

test e is the only thing in the syringe when i pin. I'm going very basic and simple on this cycle. and yes, i didnt think i was, but I was probably shaking a LOT

 

[Kazmir]

Normal, I usually hurt for about 3 days after hitting a spot i haven't done in a while, the gear itself also contributes to the pain. Remember you just put a foreign substance into your body and injected into virgin muscle, your body is going wtf did you just do to me

 

[spade93]

hahah yeah i can feel it saying "wtf". Well all good news guys. Thanks for the assurance. I figured it wasn't an infection due to the lack of symptoms. And the fact that anti imflammation pills help, as well as my hot tub.

Edit: But how the shit will i do legs?! i refuse to pin my shoulders so it's just going to be quads and glutes (both of which i have the flexability to reach).

 

[DexterMorgan]

test e is the only thing in the syringe when i pin. I'm going very basic and simple on this cycle. and yes, i didnt think i was, but I was probably shaking a LOT

You said that you made a mistake by not splitting the 250mgs dose. So you're taking 250 mgs of test a week? or you meant split the injection in 2 different body parts on the same day?
If it is 250mgs/wk, what other compounds are in your current cycle?

 

[keem31]

I had that same problem bro, but only with prop or something that had prop in it because of the alcohol. test e should pin pretty well with typical soreness you get whenever you put a substance into the muscle. you sure you got the right test? prop is really painful to the point where some including myself find it painful to roll over on my ass when i sleep or definately a limp if you pin the quad.

 

[spade93]

i have adex but i was told to only run it if i need it. But I've also read a lot of people saying instead of doing 250 (1mL)/wk, to split it into 2 injections of .5mL on 2 separate days (for example) .5mL wednesday/ .5mL sunday

Edit: Keem,
I'm 99% positive it's test E because i haven't had any "instant" effects of it, and its bottled professionally (mexican, however) as Enantat 250, with testosterone enanthate underneath it. Sealed like a bottle you'd get as a prescription. It looked legit, and has been used by a few references I have talked to.

 

[ktown]

Yep you will have pain but gets better .I like pinning delts the best then glutes you start limping around and people start asking .Pick a new spot to keep scar tissue to a minimum and receptors fresh.You want to do 500mg a week split I do 250mgs Monday then 250mgs Thursday keeps the blood levels nice and stable .

 

[DexterMorgan]

i have adex but i was told to only run it if i need it. But I've also read a lot of people saying instead of doing 250 (1mL)/wk, to split it into 2 injections of .5mL on 2 separate days (for example) .5mL wednesday/ .5mL sunday

This is what I thought, and the reason I asked. Shutting yourself down for 250mgs/wk of ugl gear is nearly worthless. You need 500mgs for your cycle, if you want to see results. Take adex throughout the entire cycle, it's a must, you have to keep estrogen under control. Not taking AI(adex) on cycle is simply asking for tits. Yes you should split the injections by 3.5 days, but again, the dose you're using is not enough. If you're shutting your natural production down, make it worth it

 

[spade93]

so you're saying I should get another bottle off this guy? It WAS a little pricey. But there were mixed comments of people saying to start at 250 weekly for a first cycle, and others that said higher.

 

[DexterMorgan]

so you're saying I should get another bottle off this guy? It WAS a little pricey. But there were mixed comments of people saying to start at 250 weekly for a first cycle, and others that said higher.

Steroids, AI's, SERMs, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and blood works are expensive. If you can't afford it, don't use it.
So tell me whats your post cycle therapy (pct) is gong to be like?
Is everything on hand?
how many weeks are you going to run test for?

With your current knowledge I personally would abort this cycle.

 

[spade93]

I was going to take a combo of nolva and clomid for a SERM. And Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during the cycle. And now apparently adex the entire way through.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I was going to take a combo of nolva and clomid for a SERM. And Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during the cycle. And now apparently adex the entire way through.

Is everything on hand, serms, Aromatase inhibitor (AI), Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), all the test vials?
how many weeks are you going to run test for?

 

[spade93]

everything is on hand yes. I was going to run test for 10 weeks.

 

[Sharkwing289]

Yo bro 250 mgs a week is not shit to be shutting your self down over. You are not getting all the amazing muscle building benefits you should be with that. You should always run 3 bottles of test e if that is the only steroid being taken. 250 mg per ml at ten ml per bottle. This gives you about 8ml a bottle because they are usually 2ml short, plus you lose a little in the pin. This means that each bottle should last 4 weeks at 500mg lasting you all together a 12 week span. 12 weeks is the minimum you run a test e cycle.

 

[DexterMorgan]

everything is on hand yes. I was going to run test for 10 weeks.

You don't really see gains untill abou week 6 from test, could even take longer. This is why at least 12 weeks cycle is recommend.
Since you've already started your cycle, this would be a good thread to read
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycleing-beginners-guide-your-first-cycle.html

Read all the stickies in this forum section for your own safety http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/

If you can, get some more gear from "Your guy" don't forget mid and post post cycle therapy (pct) blood work, as well as the blood donation.