I have never used ip gear but my buddy just got some of their sust I think its like 375mgs? 1.5ml amps anyhow he took his 1st shot and he says the pain is the worst he's ever had he also got a bad temp. Now he has done sust from other brands b4 and had some pain but very little. well I told him to try a 2nd shot to make sure and his 2nd is even worst. Id ip known for painful gear I think i used to hear that its just been so long since Ive even heard their name. So any info from people who have used their gear would be great. Thanks, I think my boy is just a big baby that whines too much.