is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) a must on this cycle

[jamaican]

is hcg a must on this cycle

age:27
BF:19%

third cycle i am done with long cycle hate side-effect (water reten-acne-etc) so i will go with short cycle which will be like

test prop 100 eod week1-6
dbol 25-40 ed week 1-4
tren 75 eod week 1-4
winstrol 50 ed week 3-6

hcg for 10 days before the last prop shot 1500iu every 3 days untill the last shot of prop and then begin clomid after 4 days
200 1st day/100/50/50/50
advice please and would it be a good gain or not and my pic attached

 

[OmegaReign]

Whats your weight......seems after 2 cycles you'd be more muscular, not hating just curious. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is up to you man. Ill always use it from here on out. They never used back in the day, but times have changed, why not take anything to get your test running normal again.

 

[jamaican]

Whats your weight......seems after 2 cycles you'd be more muscular, not hating just curious. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is up to you man. Ill always use it from here on out. They never used back in the day, but times have changed, why not take anything to get your test running normal again.

i am 82kg after i was 130kg and i suffered to come to this weight any way my cycles was from ayear before i would diet my problem is:

i live in egypt its too hard to get a good pct med like for example i cant get bac water and if i order it onlline it will cost 60$
aromasin or aramadex =260$ and thats why i dont like to do along cycle with long ester

so do ihave to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and if i have to do can i use it like above

 

[OX]

You can make your own bac water. Distilled water and benzyl alcohol. If you can get those cheaper let me know and I will give you the recipe. easier then koolaid.

as far as hcg goes...man your running tren so it would be best to use it during cycle but if you dont want to spend that kind of money then start your blast after your last shot..not during your cycle.

 

[jamaican]

no i cant do my own bac water

You can make your own bac water. Distilled water and benzyl alcohol. If you can get those cheaper let me know and I will give you the recipe. easier then koolaid.

as far as hcg goes...man your running tren so it would be best to use it during cycle but if you dont want to spend that kind of money then start your blast after your last shot..not during your cycle.

i cant get any benzyl alcohol , so how can i get my blast after my last shot and why not at the last 10 days

 

[OX]

i cant get any benzyl alcohol , so how can i get my blast after my last shot and why not at the last 10 days

the point of hcg is to get your natty test levels up again so if you take it on cycle while your suppressed by the exogenous test then your defeating the point of using hcg as a recovery aid because the test your injecting will keep your hpta suppressed. Use it after your last shot like I said.

500iu a day for 10 days after your last shot....4 days later start your pct

 

[jamaican]

the point of hcg is to get your natty test levels up again so if you take it on cycle while your suppressed by the exogenous test then your defeating the point of using hcg as a recovery aid because the test your injecting will keep your hpta suppressed. Use it after your last shot like I said.

500iu a day for 10 days after your last shot....4 days later start your pct

i took your advice and i orderd bac water so what do you recommend for using it

 

[slair]

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the point of hcg is to get your natty test levels up again so if you take it on cycle while your suppressed by the exogenous test then your defeating the point of using hcg as a recovery aid because the test your injecting will keep your hpta suppressed. Use it after your last shot like I said.

500iu a day for 10 days after your last shot....4 days later start your pct

defeating the purpose or not....alot of guys like to use during cycle to keep their balls nice and full. The theory is that allowing them to atrophy heavily and for a long period may be more detrimental than not using at all.

 

[OX]

defeating the purpose or not....alot of guys like to use during cycle to keep their balls nice and full. The theory is that allowing them to atrophy heavily and for a long period may be more detrimental than not using at all.

haha you obviously didnt read the entire thread. He has to pay 240 something for hcg. hcg at that price would keep me from doing it as well. I am well educated on hcg and I know all the theories but thanks. And to give you a little bit of a new theory....not using hcg during cycles and letting the testicles go dormant can actually be beneficial as the testicles are actually "taking a break" so when you pct and bring them back they are supposedly healthier then testicles that never shut down as they were not used. Tasty morsel there huh

 

[OX]

defeating the purpose or not....alot of guys like to use during cycle to keep their balls nice and full. The theory is that allowing them to atrophy heavily and for a long period may be more detrimental than not using at all.

oh and the reason I said it was defeating the purpose was because he was going to use it the last 3 weeks of his cycle. Lets say you had one vial of 5000iu of hcg. When would you say is the oportune time to use it? The last 3 weeks of cycle or the blast phase?

 

[OX]

i took your advice and i orderd bac water so what do you recommend for using it

as I stated....start your injections the day after your last test shot. Inject 500iu every day for 10 days. Then 4 days later start your pct

 

[jamaican]

OX my freind i am confused

haha you obviously didnt read the entire thread. He has to pay 240 something for hcg. hcg at that price would keep me from doing it as well. I am well educated on hcg and I know all the theories but thanks. And to give you a little bit of a new theory....not using hcg during cycles and letting the testicles go dormant can actually be beneficial as the testicles are actually "taking a break" so when you post cycle therapy (pct) and bring them back they are supposedly healthier then testicles that never shut down as they were not used. Tasty morsel there huh

you told me :
as far as hcg goes...man your running tren so it would be best to use it during cycle but if you dont want to spend that kind of money then start your blast after your last shot..not during your cycle.

so i did ordered bac water to run hcg during cycle but now you say :
.not using hcg during cycles and letting the testicles go dormant can actually be beneficial as the testicles are actually "taking a break" so when you post cycle therapy (pct) and bring them back they are supposedly healthier then testicles that never shut down as they were not used. Tasty morsel there huh

so what is your advise

 

[OX]

you told me :
as far as hcg goes...man your running tren so it would be best to use it during cycle but if you dont want to spend that kind of money then start your blast after your last shot..not during your cycle.

so i did ordered bac water to run hcg during cycle but now you say :
.not using hcg during cycles and letting the testicles go dormant can actually be beneficial as the testicles are actually "taking a break" so when you post cycle therapy (pct) and bring them back they are supposedly healthier then testicles that never shut down as they were not used. Tasty morsel there huh

so what is your advise

hahaha sorry for the confusion brother. That is just a theory. There is no real empirical data backing it up. Its beneficial to run on cycle and I was confused because I thought you said it was extremely expensive. If it was then I wouldnt use it on cycle. I would just use it in the blast phase. Now if you want to use it on cycle then just start with 500iu every mon and thurs. Then after your last shot start the blast phase.

 

[jamaican]

hahaha sorry for the confusion brother. That is just a theory. There is no real empirical data backing it up. Its beneficial to run on cycle and I was confused because I thought you said it was extremely expensive. If it was then I wouldnt use it on cycle. I would just use it in the blast phase. Now if you want to use it on cycle then just start with 500iu every mon and thurs. Then after your last shot start the blast phase.

so if i am runing test prop should i begin the blast after last shot or the last 10 before the last shot

 

[OX]

so if i am runing test prop should i begin the blast after last shot or the last 10 before the last shot

the day after your last shot

 

[Trainwrek]

Why would you only run a 6 week cycle though? I mean.. I'd go 8 at the very least...I mean, I don't mind the pinning EOD so I take my prop cycles out 15-16 weeks sometimes.. just not seeing the point in only going 6. To me I always feel the beast right at about week 5 and 6 on any cycle I do. Just my 2 cents..

 

[Deeboo]

i am 82kg after i was 130kg and i suffered to come to this weight any way my cycles was from ayear before i would diet my problem is:

i live in egypt its too hard to get a good post cycle therapy (pct) med like for example i cant get bac water and if i order it onlline it will cost 60$
aromasin or aramadex =260$ and thats why i dont like to do along cycle with long ester

so do ihave to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and if i have to do can i use it like above

Last time I was on holiday in hurghada I tryed to find Aromasin and Arimidex and they were very expensive. You should try finding Anastrozole. It's much cheaper.

 

[trance22]

damn bro it doesnt even look like you lift (no hate) but yes you should use HCG

 

[FormerFatty]

Agree, I mean I know you are in egypt but see if you can get some blood work done and see if your gear is bunk. You have a good build but not one that looks like it has ever been running gear. Maybe you are just getting a placebo effect. Get that blood work done and see if people are screwing you.

If you want to see what an epic one cycle can do for you check out dahurts log. That guy was dialed in. Your beard is badass though

 

[pharaoh]

such a short cycle mine as well do the dbol the whole 6 weeks. Just keep in mind that test prop does still take a week or so to start kicking in if i were you id do ten weeks.