Is it probable that AAS damaged/did this to my heart?
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About 16 days after last test inj which was tuesday I pinned 250 mg test cyp cuz I started feeling lousy. So ya, gonna continue the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). I'm convinced the bronchitis that lingered is causing the fluid retention around my heart. They did an echocardiogram in the hospital and found I had "reduced cardiac ejection fraction". Basically the left ventricle doesn't pump what it should, so fluid backs up
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I told my cardiologist about my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosages @ 100 mg every week at my appt yesterday. Didnt go into the 500 mg/wk and the 400 mg/week of masteron or any of the tren.
at this point it doesnt really matter what caused my problems because it needs to be fixed.
More test in a couple weeks- an angiogram and a tee test. So far my cardio doc thinks my aortic valve is leaking. So my heart is working harder to pump the same blood. He told me valves dont fix themselves, and ill prolly need it replaced.... which means open heart surgery..yikes!!
in 2003, I had an echocardiogram(ultrasound) done and the problem existed then, but now it lots worse. It does seem peculiar that it got to the point that I notice decreased cardio function when i was on the juice. Maybe I cou8ld have avioded this for some time, but I think eventually it would have come to this(valve replacement)
in my opinion it possible the mast, tren and clen moved the valve deterioration at a faster pace.
zephyr_987
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as rick james would say " TREN IS A HELL OF A DRUG!!" haha sorry couldnt help myself .
ive had bad asthma all my life , which made me very prone to bronchitis & pneumonia at times....the liquid retained in your lungs very well may have been from that bug that u probably didnt fully recover from.. there have been a few times i had to take some strong ass antibiotics, felt good by day 10 & then relapse even worse a week later & felt like i was drowning.. but also the liquid retention around your heart sounds like mild CHF. the other sides sound like tren. & estrogen. repectfully, whats a guy your age doing with a drug like tren?
ive had bad asthma all my life , which made me very prone to bronchitis & pneumonia at times....the liquid retained in your lungs very well may have been from that bug that u probably didnt fully recover from.. there have been a few times i had to take some strong ass antibiotics, felt good by day 10 & then relapse even worse a week later & felt like i was drowning.. but also the liquid retention around your heart sounds like mild CHF. the other sides sound like tren. & estrogen. repectfully, whats a guy your age doing with a drug like tren?
carverelli
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I was dabbling in tren, thinking maybe 150-200 mg a week would help me harden up without the sides.
travelling lifter
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I would recommend keeping your cycles simple until you figure it out, but it seems like others said before, it was probably the bug you had in conjunction with the lingering heart issue, but there's a reason doctors go to school so much, get their advice
Trying to grow
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I was on tren and sust caught a bad cold and was sick for months. I couldnt breathe just walking i had every test done .Finally went to a lung doctor and he ran a ct scan which showed a large mass on my lungs.On preatzone now and can breathe .I lost 30% of my lungs and i know tren was the cause .Gains were unbelivable wish i could run tren but will never touch the stuff again.Good luck.
funny you mention this. i ran a test only cycle, last pin was roughly 4 weeks ago. just recently i've been having the feeling of fluid around my heart when it's pumping hard while lifting. i am also a smoker (only 24 though), have been smoking for around 8 years but what a coinicidence this just started happening. could it possibly be the nolva? i saw in one post someone said high estro? what would that have to do with fluid around the heart? and everyone can say it's not the gear all they want, but come on. even if it is related to a liver problem or estro, then that's obviously from the gear. a side effect from a side effect.
carverelli
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THe aortic valve. Its between the left ventricle and the aorta
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in my case because my aortic valve was leaking blood back into the heart when it relaxed blood/fluid was being backed up into my lungs and around my heart. Open heart surgery and a aotic valve replacement seems to be the answer so far, buy Im having an angiogram done in 2 weeks and this will confirm the diagnosis and see just how bad it is. Some valves can be repaired, but ususally the aortic valve is replaced. All this is starting to sink in and I dont mind saying I'm scared as hell.
Trying to grow
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Hey Carverlli are you still cycling or are you taking a break? I wish you the best of luck .
randy841
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Don't you think it's important to be upfront with your cardiologist about your usage -- considering this could easily become a life and death scenario in 6-12 months.
P.S. Clen is also known for necrosis of healthy heart cells. If you are pre-disposed genetically, clen could also be a factor in your heart condition.
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yesterday I had 2 more tests done at hospital. one was an angiogram just to make sure there werent any blocked or partially blocked arteries around my heart, the 2nd was a TEE. basically its an echocardiogram taken from a scope they stick down my esophagus. It turns out my aortic valve is a bicuspid valve having only 2 leaflets. most vlaves have 3, a tri-cuspid. it had been leakinh for a long time, and maybe the clen or mast or tren aggravated it but my guess was the bacteria or virus that caused the bronchitis. The valve would have to have been replaced sooner or later anyway, but now its critical that it is soon- like within a couple months.
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