Is this a good cycle/PCT?

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I've been doing quite a bit of research, and this is what I think would be a fairly nice light-cycle for gaining lean mass and cutting down a little bit of BF%. However, I am no expert and am posting here for experienced advice. All is welcome and greatly appreciated.

Cycle would apply for a 28yo Male, 6'0", 180lbs, 9%BF, clean constant diet, highly active with resistance training and light cardio, looking to gain 15-30lbs of solid lean mass.

6wk cycle:

Sust250 at 400mg/wk for 6wks
Deca at 100mg/wk for 4wks
LiquiDex at .25mg/EOD for full 8wks.

4wk PCT:

LiquiDex at 25mg EOD for first 2wks
LiquiAromas at 25mg EOD for 4wks
LiquiClom at 25mg EOD for 4wks
OTC PCT (minerals that support natural hormone homeostasis and natural test booster) for first 4wks
 
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Read up on the forum, very informative...but I'm still a little lost as to why it is 100% wrong.

What I took is that the PCT should only last 4wks?
 
Your pct consists of ai's not serms. Very bad. 4 weeks of deca? Read the steroid profiles at the top of the page. A full 8 weeks of Sustanon? There's nothing full about it. Again look at the steroid profiles. Your 6' and 180lbs. You need to eat! You won't get anything out of your cycle except for crashed e2 during pct. Don't know what I'm talking about? Well read through the link!
 
deca needs to be ran at least 12 weeks, test needs to be ran 2-3 weeks longer then deca.


Is this your first cycle?
if yes, drop Everything and search up on a TEST only cycle and read the Link Tbonexl suggested.
 
No, hope this helps

Also it would be a complet pain in the ass to get 150ml on every draw of Sus250.
 
your first cycle should be test only.. u need to read the links the guys put up
 
Your 6' 180 and 9% bf... Your wanting to put on weight, you may want to consider ditching the cardio all together for right now and concentrate on eating and lifting.

As for your cycle-- it's plain horrible,, your gonna get negative results from it.

Get your lifting and diet straight, ditch the cardio, then simply 400-600 mg of test for 12+ weeks for a first cycle should yield you a good 20-30 lbs (and if u wanna keep those gains afterwards make sure you stick with a diet that has been very well dialed in)
 
Ok, so a little more info. I really don't want to do a 12wk cycle, I'll get bigger than what I want. This is not my first cycle, but I want to make sure I am doing it correctly...so big thanks to everyone contributing solid information for me to read/consider. I have experience with deca, and I definitely don't want to do a 12wk cycle of it, which I understand is the normal minimum of use for most people.

Thanks to you guys, I now know the difference between SERMs and AIs...which I wasn't clear about earlier, as I thought they were basically the same thing.

Here is my updated cycle, so please pick it apart and make any suggestions you may have:

6wk cycle:

Sust250 at 400mg/wk for 6wks
Deca at 100mg/wk for 4wks
LiquiDex at .25mg/EOD for full 8wks.

4wk PCT:

LiquiDex at 25mg EOD for first 2wks (AI)
LiquiAromas at 25mg EOD for 4wks (Suicidal AI)
LiquiClom at 25mg EOD for 4wks (SERM)
OTC PCT (minerals that support natural hormone homeostasis and natural test booster) for 4wks

I still want to include the deca to boost lean mass gained, and ideally I'd really only like 15-20lbs of mass gained, although I wouldn't complain about 25-30. Should I drop the deca altogether since I'd only use it for the first 4wks, would it be a waste, or would it help with the cycle?

My cardio is already low, but I need to keep it up for work. My gym time is solid and I have over 10+years of lifting experience. My diet is spot on with protiens, complex/simple carbs, and plenty of veggies (nutrition is part of my work).
 
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15 to 30 pounds from six week sustcycle huh... Itll just be kicking in bye then bud. If you want a short cycle drop the deca, switch to prop and add maybe masteron, winstrol, OR tren ace alongside for 8 weeks.

Run the arimidex until start of pct. Switch to aromasin and run it the first week or two, then drp the AI altogether.

You also should add another SERM

Clomid
100/50/50/50
Nolva
40/20/20/20
Aromasin
6.25 ED or 12.5 EoD
 
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tbonexl said:
Your pct consists of ai's not serms. Very bad. 4 weeks of deca? Read the steroid profiles at the top of the page. A full 8 weeks of Sustanon? There's nothing full about it. Again look at the steroid profiles. Your 6' and 180lbs. You need to eat! You won't get anything out of your cycle except for crashed e2 during pct. Don't know what I'm talking about? Well read through the link!
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Surprisingly, I will agree with tbone
 
jomamma007 said:
15 to 30 pounds from six week sustcycle huh... Itll just be kicking in bye then bud. If you want a short cycle drop the deca, switch to prop and add maybe masteron, winstrol, OR tren ace alongside for 8 weeks.

Run the arimidex until start of pct. Switch to aromasin and run it the first week or two, then drp the AI altogether.

You also should add another SERM

Clomid
100/50/50/50
Nolva
40/20/20/20
Aromasin
6.25 ED or 12.5 EoD
Click to expand...

This is not good advice for a first cycle.
 
I honestly don't see it as a far stretch...I gained 25lbs lean mass on prohormones in the past on a 1 month cycle, and a legit cycle should be far more potent.
 
If anyone has any legit suggestion for these amounts, please let me know.

2500mg sust250
1200mg deca
30ml liquidex
30ml liquiaromas
30ml liquiclom
 
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Save it for when you get enough gear to do a cycle. You still don't have any concept on pct. At all. Use this time to learn how to eat and do a proper cycle. Your idea of gaining so much lean mass is delusional. It's difficult to gain 5lbs of muscle in a year doing everything correctly.
 
I think that people need to have a certain minimum I.Q. before using AAS. These threads occur so often because no one knows how to read.
 
Worst I ever seen it... They think they'll be ready for the Arnold classic in 12 weeks! " I don't want to get too big!" Lmao
 
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