Is your gym full of AAS ignorance? Vent thread

[Ghost124]

Soo I just have to vent:
About me:
I am 23 years old and do gear. Started when I was 19 and admit that is was a horrible mistake. Only took it because I was very frustrated with the fact that my chest would not grow and some dude at the gym pushed D-bol on to me and told me how to take it. Needless to say I did a dry 6 week D-bol only cycle with no AI or PCT or Test, and lots and lots of alcohol. Bad idea. Then age age 21 I found this place(never made an account) and it educated me SO MUCH on how to run gear. So fast forward to today:

So the gym I work out out there is a group of 5 guys who all work out together which me and my friend call them the "douche bag group". They are your stereotypical young(ages 19-22) juice heads that worship Zyzz and try to act like him too. Always take shirtless pictures at the gym and have a bunch of girls who worship them. Now I am not mad at them for the fame they are getting, but instead their approach to AAS. These guys push their ideas onto others(mainly kids their own age) on how to cycle. Now, they do a proper cycle with Test as a base with AI. HOWEVER this is their cycle: Test/Var for 8 weeks, then take 4 weeks off(this is what they consider PCT and time off) then get back on for 8 weeks. They have been doing this for 2 years now of going 8 weeks on and 4 weeks off. All year round for 2 years straight now. The worst part? They get other people on their program as well of going 8 on and 4 off all year round because they think that is the proper way to cycle.

What pisses me off is now I am seeing more and more people in the gym jump on this program of theirs because they assume that is how you run gear properly. Is is getting to the point that its not even people in my age group, its the older guys in their 30's that are jumping on their program because they want to look like them.

Oh and these guys do not get bloodwork done and party hard. They go out and club almost every weekend and do cocaine and ecstasy. One of them even got rushed to a hospital in the back of an ambulance because he passed out from dehydration from the ecstasy. Where I do have to give them credit is, they diet good(outside the partying) and they bust their ass off very hard at the gym.

But that is my vent, just wondering if you guys have morons at your gym who assume they know how to do gear and try and educate others

 

[darkwing86]

Always gonna be people like this man .. what do u wanna do .. and the bigger problem is if u try to tell the "followers" not to do it ... they will never listen .. what can you do ... some people will only learn the hard way ... when u care you do research and dont run to the east fixes and shit all the time . Id say what bothers me most are the people who just start training with a few months experience ... and realize apparently they arent gaining fast enough already and want to take steroids . but anyways an .. to each their own ... help those u can . sadly alot wont take the help .

 

[PrinceDianabol]

These types are everywhere. I've totally given up on trying to help people in real life now if they won't listen. I know a whole bunch of guys who use AAS but none of them will ever entertain the idea of blood work, or an AI or running test with cycles etc. I know two guys on oral only cycles right now. One complained to me yesterday how he's all achey and sore. Go figure lol.

End of the day, I have tried, and they don't want my "opinion." Fair enough, it's their body and their HPTA let them fuck it up if they want! You can lead a horse to water.. I get what you mean, it can be frustrating watching the retards spread their broscience. All you can do is try to help, but most people won't bother listening.

 

[AgeisjustaNumber]

Have to agree. Been training a lonnnnngg time and every where I go I hear the take this like this and you'll look like this. Most of it is bs. Hard work, diet and patience is all that works. Then maybe some tren, test........ but at 19, 20....wasting good drugs for nothing imo.

 

[Roush]

at the gym i go to,, the people are on way more Meds and compounds then you'd ever think.. why ?

cause they are all OLD ! lol .. guess that's the thing living in an upper class golf course community.. but yeah no young Zyyz want to be's pop this roid that roid guys at my gym.. but no hot chicks either

i'd imagine it would get annoying,, the most help I have to give a guy at my gym is showing an old man how to fuckin adjust the seat on a nautilus machine,, all while he is looking at my wife's tits while I'm adjusting it for him.. and that's why he asks for help again the next time

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Yeah there will be people like this everywhere, except for my gym, they don't last long as we don't tolerate that shit and faggoty zyzz like behaviour....

Fucking retards who get on the gas and think they are gods gift.

 

[halfwit]

I love kids like that! They're all loud and slap each other on the ass in between lat pull-down sets, it really makes my night when I get to head over by them and do lateral raises with 70lb dumbells - only to see them try (and damn near kill themselves in the process) trying to emulate my routine.

They shut up after that.

Age and experience > youth. Especially when on a fuck-ton of tren.




(gosh, I must be feeling a little aggressive lately )

 

[Hypnotix]

I love kids like that! They're all loud and slap each other on the ass in between lat pull-down sets, it really makes my night when I get to head over by them and do lateral raises with 70lb dumbells - only to see them try (and damn near kill themselves in the process) trying to emulate my routine.

They shut up after that.

Age and experience > youth. Especially when on a fuck-ton of tren.




(gosh, I must be feeling a little aggressive lately )

Do you really do lat raises with 70's? You have to be god damn gigantic and strong as an ox, or just plain ruining your shoulders showing off..

Have you ever posted a selfy HW?

 

[49ER]

No glad i dont see those type tards i did see this mid 30s guy wearing 5% tank and even had the matching water gallon..... What was comical is him trying to immitate Rich pianas rediculous faces and grunts he does on cables

 

[Teutonic]

at the gym i go to,, the people are on way more Meds and compounds then you'd ever think.. why ?

cause they are all OLD ! lol .. guess that's the thing living in an upper class golf course community.. but yeah no young Zyyz want to be's pop this roid that roid guys at my gym.. but no hot chicks either

i'd imagine it would get annoying,, the most help I have to give a guy at my gym is showing an old man how to fuckin adjust the seat on a nautilus machine,, all while he is looking at my wife's tits while I'm adjusting it for him.. and that's why he asks for help again the next time

Glad to see you will help me adjust the seat as I m checkingmy depends for leaks Roush. Mighty kind,mighty kind.

HW is is a very large and very powerful individual guys. 9 Unusually so ,(As is 3j.) I have seen his 70 pd dumbbell raise and it s not as astonishing as you "think" if you saw his delt, trap upper lat-back. It is very impressive for sure but as indicated he s a very large imposing figure who may be the nicest and definitely one of the smartest people you will ever meet if your lucky enough to.
( he does not post selfie s as he s so big and so hard to forget some --ck from xxxxxx xx would recognize him and as he is a family man he can t afford the potential heat...I hope you do not mind me answering Dr. HW.? plus Mrs. HW will beat him if he does)

I train at Planet Fitness as it s under 20 dollars, I have 3 in my town, 2 near my gf s house and 3 in NYC where my son s at...(and at my current state of feebleness it s all I need for my pitiful look. GAY PORN STAR look.)
Depending on when I go I too hear some roid talk but it s more prevalent after say 6 pm than 5 a m which is my favorite time to train. I hear the same b/s " I m on winny bro ! I m gonna get shredded as --ck !"
Or the old oral cycles as those who inject have a serious problem...or my shit won t get hard ??? I m on 1200 mg test a week w t h ? Never a word about ai s/blood panels or doc s. It s sad.

But even though I wear headphones I rarely turn them on, it s polite way to ignore people or get interrupted. I m very social before my w-o, after a body-part or upon conclusion. But alas even though I really want to help these kids or newb s my age exploring trt as an option I have no time to teach AAS 101, TRT 101 or AAS Smuggling/Scoring 101; and there is NO WAY at my age I am risking either sharing a source, putting myself at risk to make 2, 4 , 600 dollars ( that s NO MONEY) to potentially lose what I ve strived for....a content life.
I know I could wade in and shatter some myth s or educate the young or hook up some fellow 50 yr old s w my GP but he asked NOT TOO...so I do not. I sure as hell do not need some lil fucker getting popped, or knocking on my door as he broke a 25 g needle off in his thigh ?

I m o steroids are ABUSED now more than ever. In that I mean I know so many guy s who if they are not ON they do not train....at all. The work ethic has slipped...to many people trying to use slin, gh, tren,t2 or t3 instead of logging the hours weeks months years. And then...when I am asked what to you do for x..my response is------

I train. 1 hour a day. 5-6 days a week. I been going for 33 yr s.AAAHHHH. Excuse me...I m cooling down..gotta hit it.

The gym is as important to me as my coffee in the a m, my 10 mg of Lexapro and my trt and my gf. It s like air, water, food, sex, train...in some shape or other. I push mow the yard if I have time as it s very aerobic and "chicks dig it."

 

[anzel]

My buddy is a little older than me and he has been using gear for 20 yrs. He is on TRT for half the year and then blasts test and deca and maybe a little oral the other half year. His blood work is only done when he goes back on TRT (and his blood work is fantastic) but never checks mid cycle. He looks good but over the years has put on stomach fat and as he gets closer to 50 he is becoming more lax in his diet. So he started running T3 . He doesn't use the computer so I dug up the info on how to use T3, from Ology of course. ....
Long story short, he refuses to diet at a calorie deficit. Or I should say he doesn't count his macros. I tried explaining it simple. "T3 will raise your metabolism but if you are not careful you may eat just enough food to negate the extra calories you burn" How does he know if he is in deficit ????
ANd he just wont listen and then tells me ya gotta eat to get big!! He is all over the place.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Just something to add the sad thing is that steroids+stimulants can be a recipe for cardiac disaster... Especially MDMA (ecstasy), due to it being a 5HT2B agonist and a potent one which causes cardiac growth/issues itself.

Gotta use safely.

Brings in mind, people using AAS+stimulants (coffee yes, ephedrine, pre-workouts etc) should be keeping an extra eye on this.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

My buddy is a little older than me and he has been using gear for 20 yrs. He is on TRT for half the year and then blasts test and deca and maybe a little oral the other half year. His blood work is only done when he goes back on TRT (and his blood work is fantastic) but never checks mid cycle. He looks good but over the years has put on stomach fat and as he gets closer to 50 he is becoming more lax in his diet. So he started running T3 . He doesn't use the computer so I dug up the info on how to use T3, from Ology of course. ....
Long story short, he refuses to diet at a calorie deficit. Or I should say he doesn't count his macros. I tried explaining it simple. "T3 will raise your metabolism but if you are not careful you may eat just enough food to negate the extra calories you burn" How does he know if he is in deficit ????
ANd he just wont listen and then tells me ya gotta eat to get big!! He is all over the place.

Refuses to diet at a caloric deficit. Refuses to eat without eating. Same same haha... Tell him to join up here!

 

[maurij1]

I don't ever get to see that at my gym. I run a boxing gym which I've set up with all the lifting equipment that I want and need. Aside from my big heavyweight I'm the only one there that lifts. I do get quite a few kids that ask me how to lift and of course they all want to get big arms. Only about half the kids I talk to actually listen to me, so it's hard to stay motivated to help them. Most people there just leave me alone when I'm lifting, hoodie up ear buds in no talk. I've only had a couple 20 yr olds ask me about steroids and I always give them the same answer....why the fuck do you want to go and do that shit (said with my mean face) then after they stop stuttering and back peddaling I explain to them that they're to young and why.

We have a huge crossfit/powerlifting gym just a little ways from our boxing gym. This gym has everything I would ever want at a gym but for all the reasons you've all mentioned above I just can't get myself to go there. I used to always have training partners....now I just want to be left alone to enjoy my music and weights....My sanctuary!!

 

[Southernfish]

Oh man the gym i train at is FULL of these types of guys AND girls. Especially at night its like a social event for these people to go the gym. Makes me wanna puke. Theyre more worried about getting that sick selfie so they can hashtag that shit beastmode on twitter than the are about working out. I see 5% 4L jugs. I see one person with otomix shoes then next week 20 people with otomix shoe cuz thats the cool new thing to wear. I see people who all of a sudden got a trainer so now theyre pros. Facebook.......'awesome day at the gym with my trainer today!!'. Geez, people who have done one little show and now think theyre a competative athlete who can train people, and everybodies a pro too cuz their doin a cycle, lmao. Its become a fad!! Very few people nowadays i find who are in the gym to do business, but the ones that are let the physiques do the talking.

Take my return rant for whatever its worth, lol.

 

[DaytonLax14]

I kind of see that in my gym. But the group of dudes who train together and are all "douche like" are actually really nice guys. Their appearance just throws it off. They wear cut off shirts so that their nips show and a lifting belt at all times, no matter the exercise. They make a load of noise and really annoy a lot of the other people at the gym but it does't bother me. I think the gym is a place where you should be able to get out of your comfort zone and do what needs to be done.

But my post was nothing about AAS use in the gym....lol I'm off topic

 

[maurij1]

Hahaha, gym selfies! I saw a kid at my gym taking a selfie of his six pack in the mirror and I said did you just take a fucking selfie? He said yeah but don't hate cause you don't have a six pack....I said your 135lbs soaking wet of course you have a six pack! Then I stood next to him in the mirror and told him to flex his arm..which he did and then I flexed mine and said now take a fucking selfie.....He looked at me and said why you gotta hate on me like that which made me laugh! He's a good kid, I just had to give him shit though cause I hate all that selfie shit!!

 

[halfwit]

Do you really do lat raises with 70's? You have to be god damn gigantic and strong as an ox, or just plain ruining your shoulders showing off..

Have you ever posted a selfy HW?

I wish I didn't have to lift as much as I do - but that's what my frame requires. According to my orthopaedic surgeon, my shoulders are in great shape as I do keep the rotators nice and happy.

Teutonic answered the rest for me. Thanks A!

 

[Roush]

Glad to see you will help me adjust the seat as I m checkingmy depends for leaks Roush. Mighty kind,mighty kind.

I'll happily adjust the nautilus machine seat for you any time you need it there Teutonic,, and feel free to happily check out my wife's d cup titties while I do so

 

[Teutonic]

as previously indicated might kind. And in my minds eye I just DID check your wife s uh hum..mamarie s out. But with the greatest amount of respect to you and the uh hum 3 of them. ( her and both of them )

Mrs. T is 5 ft o . wears o or double zero and has 34 c s and a 23 inch waiste weigh s 100 pounds and with a crazy Cajun cpu behind the chasis/motor driving that machine.

Now if you know Cajun s you know.....what I m talking about. She can drop 4 doves w 5 shots of a 20 gauge, loves to fish and shoot anything that she can eat cook or is not supposed to be on our farm s land, pond s or fields to include but not limited to people..or those that claim to be.. I need trt to keep that one purring son. But "I love to love" if u know what I mean.