Just started... Estrogen sides? Wrong doc?

TR2838

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Hello,

I just started testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) on 4-25, so today is my fourth day.. I'm feeling a little better today, however the first three days prior felt like a bad acid trip. Really!! I felt like I was in high school again on a trip that wouldn't go away. Grinding my teeth, tough breathing, and just a feeling of wanting to jump out of my skin!
Ok, a little info for someone w/ knowledge to pls look at...

34 yrs old
6'3"
283lbs
29-30%bf

LABCORP BLOODWORK

TT 212
Estradiol 11.0
FSH 3.38
LH 3.53
T3 UP 42.7
T4 6.35
FT4 .83
TT3 127
FT3 2.81
Doc gave me 300mg test cyp im. He plans on doing 400mg EOW for future shots.. He says hes willing to do every week if I really feel the need and he is open to AI's but "not yet"..
My Questions are is this dose too high? Do I need Aromatase inhibitor (AI) right away considering my high BF%? He drew blood and will test for free T and E2 but he gave me my first shot bc he said "judging by your Total T I can gaurantee you are low in free T."
This just took me 1/2 hour to type up bc my head is still scrambled and I'm still pretty jumpy.. So any Feed back would be of great help!!
Thanks in advance
 
I prefer getting some every 4-5 days. 100mg every 4-5 days is a good start to see how you feel. That testosterone has to aromatize. You will get side effects of estrogen stress from that most likely over time. I would just go with Chip that way your balls are big and shbg is in check and you won't grow man boobs.
 
Yes, I will definitely call chip on Monday ,but in the meantime, has anybody felt such a strong reaction from their first test shot? I flipped out on my wife a couple times, not good for a marriage already shaky from lack of sex, ambition, or energy on my part. She is already skeptical of testosterone therapy.. she thinks it's like a cult and now even more skeptical.. I will have to find out what Chip charges.. I'm pretty tight w/ money and this guy is covered under my insurance.. I don't know what to do?
 
Chip is cheap as hell to get started. The way you'll feel on his protocol will pay for itself in the first week of enhanced productivity. You will get used to higher levels eventually. You gotta keep E2 and SHBG in check.
 
Could you give us some lab ranges? Especially for your Estradiol? I'm wondering if the conversion is different because 11.0 is low, given your weight and body-fat percentage.
 
Could you give us some lab ranges? Especially for your Estradiol? I'm wondering if the conversion is different because 11.0 is low, given your weight and body-fat percentage.

11 is very low, its because his total t is so low he has no T to convert to estrogen.

OP tell your doc you want weekly shots and some HCG. at this point you do not need an AI.
 
Hey Jow,
estradiol range is (20-75)! I guess 11 is very low estradiol.. Labcorp didn't flag it? I think Det Oaks explanation makes sense... I just assumed that I would be high in estrogen becauase of my bf%... Maybe this bloated feeling I have is hyperchondria? Is it possible to have gyno without itchy nipples?

Thanks to everyone! Pls keep the feedback coming
 
I don't think you should be telling Chip how to treat his clients on this board. The doctors do what they do best. There are little to no complaints from his clients. Go take your marketing elsewhere if you are here to pick up clients and bash his protocol bro. You go on about adrenals and thyroid and all of this but rarely give real specific advice. Go to meso-rx where you can pick up your clients.
 
Well, my opinion is you are full of it if you think this is a one size fits all dosing game. I wouldn't feel remotely good on 50mg of testosterone, and my thyroid and adrenal are fine.
 
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