Just Started HRT...many questions please help!

[willnorthwest]

The one I told you about is cheaper for a full panel and you get your results in 24 hours. Check it out.

Don't take Aromatase inhibitor (AI) unless you need it. That would be dumb. Lot's of guys on a TRT dose don't need Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Having low E2 is just as bad or worse than having it too high.

hmmmmm......okay, see i didnt know that either! thanks man, im gonna check out that site right now!

THE LAB TEST I NEED TO TAKE IS ESTRADIOL, SENSITIVE..........Correct? there are a bunch of Estradiol tests!

 

[Megatron28]

Read the stickies in the trt forum. They recommend what to take.

 

[flyrs]

You could check into storing some sperm while you might have swimmers.

 

[willnorthwest]

okay guys,
i am seriously considering joining IMT. I spoke with Eric from IMT yesterday and he seemed knowledgeable and concerned for my situation. I also like the fact that he himself is on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), it kind of puts us in the same boat. i also like the fact that they are MUCH easier to get in touch with if you have any questions rather than trying to contact a local doctor. Also, this forum is great too, and it seems to be controlled by IMT staffers.
Was steroidology.com created by IMT? If i sign up with IMT, will you guys still be there for me, especially on this forum, to answer my OCD type questions? lol

 

[300winmag]

okay guys,
i am seriously considering joining IMT. I spoke with Eric from IMT yesterday and he seemed knowledgeable and concerned for my situation. I also like the fact that he himself is on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), it kind of puts us in the same boat. i also like the fact that they are MUCH easier to get in touch with if you have any questions rather than trying to contact a local doctor. Also, this forum is great too, and it seems to be controlled by IMT staffers.
Was steroidology.com created by IMT? If i sign up with IMT, will you guys still be there for me, especially on this forum, to answer my OCD type questions? lol

Before you get to far long if you havent done a full blood roll up to include things like LH, FSH, thyroid, liver and kidney function, cholesterol, estradoil, ferritin, iron, PSA, cortisol, and have an MRI on your pituatary gland. At minumum you would at least want a baseline for everything to look back on in the future. Also some of those things could have an affect on your T level to start with.

As far as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) I would probably stay away from letrozol as from I have seen it is the most powerfil. But yes get into a Endo or Uro and see what they think. But I still wouldnt be so anxious to throw in other meds till you know what is going on, for one you may not need it, and two the other things can be helpful, but also can create the dog chasing its tail. because you add one thing it affects others.

 

[300winmag]

We will have to agree to disagree here, in the following study out of 1100 men, testosterone implementation made the Asian men infertile, 99% of them. Upon cessation of the testosterone all but 2 of them regained fertility..................... it is my guess these 2 men had problems before they started the T.

There is no reason to hold off TRT because of infertility issues, there is 0 evidence to back up the sterility claims. I see you tell guys that a lot, but it is on a whim at best.



Testosterone Tested as Male Contraceptive

PS : in caucasian men testosterone was only about 72% effective as a contraceptive, about the same as a ripped condom

Test makes you infertile: Rumor

It took 6 months to regain fertility, without Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), with it I am sure it would happen, and have seen it happen, 3 times as fast.

So until someone provides some evidence suggesting T can make you infertile, I would suggest not telling people that.

No I agree and let me clarify. I think all to often the claims of infertily or being sterile is linked to people on cycles, even those people can be succesfful in having children, but the larger risk lies in doing that continually. But my point being is that TRT can and probably will affect your ability to have children to what extent everybody is different, and I think many people gloss over that. Does that mean you wont be successful no, but there is a chance you will not be either.

Now I know coming off TRT and adding clomid, or doing trt and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) together help mitigate this as well. I think on this forum and even with doctors the disclaimer of you having issues is often an after thought, or by the way. I am not saying sacrifice your health either, its just a calculated risk that every one needs to factor in. And you could put your self in the position to pay lots of money and take lots of time to get someone pregnant. That is the risk, take it or leave it.

All I am saying is take it into account, its easy to sit there while your feeling high on trt after being in the dumps for years, and to say Ill worry about it later, or Ill adopt(by the way that cost 5-$40 grand). your spouse may feel a lot different. And I have said before its not a death sentence by no means, but to disregard the risk is a mistake.

 

[willnorthwest]

okay fellas, thanks for all the help and support so far. I went and got my estradiol sensitive levels checked so that I can get a sense of where I am at Estrogen wise. I know that ive already started testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) (3weeks ago) and that my estradiol level wont be exactly baseline, but it would be good to see where im at now! hopefully its in a healthy range!

BTW, what range is considered good for Estradiol levels in men on trt?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

okay guys,
i am seriously considering joining IMT. I spoke with Eric from IMT yesterday and he seemed knowledgeable and concerned for my situation. I also like the fact that he himself is on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), it kind of puts us in the same boat. i also like the fact that they are MUCH easier to get in touch with if you have any questions rather than trying to contact a local doctor. Also, this forum is great too, and it seems to be controlled by IMT staffers.
Was steroidology.com created by IMT? If i sign up with IMT, will you guys still be there for me, especially on this forum, to answer my OCD type questions? lol

lol Steroidology is not affiliated with IMT. IMT simply advertise's on this great forum

 

[willnorthwest]

Okay guys...
Im going to pick up my prescription from the pharmacy today. Im suppossed to inject 100mg cypionate each Friday. I went to pick up my vials today, and they said they didnt make the 100mg/ml vial anymore, and that i would just have to take the 200mg/ml vial and inject 1/2ml. I guess that that would be the same, but just wanted to check and see what yall thought.

Also, i have read that dosing too infrequently could cause bad hormone fluctuations. Do yall think that injecting once a week would be sufficient enough to keep the hormone levels stable?

Also, I went yesterday and got an Estradiol Sensitive test done yesterday. My results should be in by 2morrow, I will post my results.

 

[Megatron28]

Just calculate the mg per ml and take that dose. You will be fine halving the dose if it is twice as strong as what your doctor prescribed. Your vial will be the same strength as what I get.

One injection per week is the minimum I would recommend and an ok place to start. I inject twice a week in which case you just divide your weekly dose into two. Some guys like every five days. You just have to see what works best for you and do the math to figure out your dose at a given frequency.

 

[willnorthwest]

okay guys got my Estradiol Sensitive test back, and I dont know how to interpret it. My Estradiol Sensitive score was a 9 pg/mL on a scale of 3-70pg/mL. I guess this means I have very low Estrogen. Heres the thing, I have never taken an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) ever! Ive only been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for 3 weeks, so I dont know if most Estrogen levels are this low to start. I read that men with low body fat have lower estrogen levels, and i probably have less than 10%. Any remarks or feedback on my Estradiol score please? If these scores are too low, are there ways of increasing Estrogen safely? is this something i should do? let me know

 

[Megatron28]

You definitely don't need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) right now. But keep checking as you go along. Things change and you may need it in the future. Pay attention to how you feel too as to whether or not your E2 is too high or too low.

As for boosting your estrogen, I am not sure. Maybe eat a lot of soy products? Sneak some birth control pills?

 

[Dreasan]

Hey fellas new here. I'm been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for 3 years at 300mg. every two weeks. My muscles have never been this hard when I was natural. I haven't taken not one Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and PCT while on the TRT. Yet, I'm GOING TO TRY MY FIRST CYCLE NEXT MONTH!! I've been putting it for too long.

 

[willnorthwest]

Dreasan.....you need to start your own thread bro! dont hi-jack mine, lol!

Anyways, thanks for the info Megatron.
Can i get some more feedback on my Estradiol Sensitive results?
Estradiol Sensitive came back at 9pg/mL on a scale of 3-70pg/mL. My Estrogen level is low, but is it too low? I have never used AI's before, and I have only been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for 1 month! I am pretty lean, 6'1 200lbs, 34 inch waist. Test was at 218 when I started. havent re-tested yet

 

[IMT staff]

yes way too low....... dangerously low........ when you suppress SHBG too much your are inducing insulin resistance..................

 

[willnorthwest]

IMT staff, what should i do to elevate my Estrogen levels then?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

You are clueless as to what you are doing, testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is not as simple as TT and E2 there is much more to it than that. You need a specialist's to walk you through it. I have already helped you as much as I can, please understand, due to liability, it is not in our best interest to consult with those that are not our patients.

I am sorry. Someone else may be able to help. This is exactly why it is important for you new guys to use IMT, because they will help you with all these things. Your doc just doesn't understand. Everyone claims they are a Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) expert, very few actually are.

 

[willnorthwest]

det-oak.....
first of all, yes I am pretty clueless about Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), THANKS for pointing that out. also, i am in the process and working to get on board with IMT. i have been consulting with Eric and he is walking me through the process. I went and got my physical done yesterday and am in the process of faxing over my paperwork and lab results that were done a month ago.
Again, this is a forum that is supposed to help answer questions related to HRT. That is what i am doing, asking questions. If you dont want to post on behalf of a certain company, then dont, i understand.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

get your paper work in and he will help you.

 

[MOEGREEN]

Agree with Oak, Eric will take care of you as I am not just a lurker here but a new patient with IMT, I too didnt know jack shit and my doctor didnt either so he was fired.........Waiting for my shipment to arrive now, go with IMT they will have all the info you need and answer any questions you have especially Eric who handled my case as well and spoon feed you if need be, great guy I think I make him laugh a lot and he thinks I am nuts but that ok, New Jersey guys do that sometimes..Good luck