Def not what I wanted to hear. Man I'm so sad. Thanks for the feedback. Just sucks because I got my blood work done in hopes I could find out that everything was good but in reality it was pointless to even get bloodwork this early after pct. I'm 30 years old and like I said I want kids and I don't want to be trt.
Lab results...How do they look?
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Def not what I wanted to hear. Man I'm so sad. Thanks for the feedback. Just sucks because I got my blood work done in hopes I could find out that everything was good but in reality it was pointless to even get bloodwork this early after pct. I'm 30 years old and like I said I want kids and I don't want to be trt.
No the bloodwork was done 2-3 weeks after PCT.
PrinceDianabol
Well-known member
Yeah I know how it is bro, such is life lol. This is why I prefer shorter cycles now (8-10weeks) with short esters so I don't have to wait anywhere near as long.
ozzyozzy21
Throwing Cookies
As previously said, you got bloods too soon after pct. The half life of clomid and nolva are both 5-7 days so it'd be like 4 half life's so 20-28 days at least to even attempt to see if you're recovered. Bloods before the 20-28 day period will be skewed like this on. Total sidebar-How awesome would it be to have natty test levels in the 800's!
Megatron28
Moderator
So you should wait about another 5.5 months before starting another cycle. And don't run another 6 month cycle if you truly want to stay off TRT.
Megatron28
Moderator
Then you have your answer again. Your Natty T isn't that important to you. Not important enough to follow basic guidelines for running safe cycles. That's OK. I am not ridiculing you. You seem perfectly aware of the risk you are taking.
I do hope that you at least wait the 6-8 weeks after stopping PCT to see if you did in fact restart your HPTA.
You are always welcome in the TRT forum should you need our help. We will guide you through the TRT process just as our predecessors helped us.
I will def wait the 6-8 weeks. I don't even mind waiting another month but 5 month seems like a really long time. So guys who stay on for 5 years have to take 2.5 years off? Since I was 21 I'm now 32 I've ran a ton of cycle some 20 weeks some 6 and some even 4 months I've always came off ran pct and waited another month or so usually 3 month total off and go on. Should some stuff be off in that case?
STAUNCHED427
Elite Juicer
Atleast wait the 8 weeks or so to see how your natty levels hold up after the SERMS have cleared... Then make a decision if you want to cycle or blast/cruise. In the meantime, educate yourself on the decision.
Sounds good I'll def wait for 8 weeks but I can't hold off any longer lol. That would be 4 month off total. I should be more then good by then I hope...
Megatron28
Moderator
Are you counting time on PCT in the 4 months number?
Would that mean I have to get another blood work done in 6 weeks since it already been 2 weeks since I've stopped pct?
Yes...It's been 55 days since my last shot. So it's been 2 months total with PCT since I've been off. Starting to get morning woods which I wasn't getting at all when I was on pct. I'm a trainer in California and it's been really hard for me working and not being in great shape especially this time of year a ton of my business comes from how I look. It shouldn't be that way but it is. I'm also going through a bad breakup that's made me depressed and has my appetite crushed. Trust me I'm holding off and have been trying.
Megatron28
Moderator
OK -- so you have really only been Off for two weeks. Not two months. I hope you get the distinction.
As for the other issues, it sounds like a psychologist could be helpful. Taking some gear isn't going to make you feel better about your breakup or body dismorphia issues.
I don't care if you run another cycle tomorrow. It is your choice. Just understand that it increases the odds that you will be going on TRT.
Thanks brotha for all the great info. I'm gonna listen and stay off ateast another month. Hopefully that becomes longer. At which point can I will jump back on for a 12 week bulker and then come off time on =time off plus pct and then wait 6-8 weeks and get blood work and hope that my natty test is still good. If not then I'll be trt. I'm hoping that my body bounces back I know guys who've been on for years and still get their natty test back so let's hope the longer I wait the better chance I have.
Now my question for you is when will I truly know if I wait when my natty test is still there? Let's say I wait 2 more month then get blood work could you then tell if my natty test is good and I won't be trt?
PrinceDianabol
Well-known member
You need to wait 6 weeks from the end of your pct. So if you ended pct 2 weeks ago, you would wait 4 weeks from today then go get the blood drawn.
One thing we can tell from the bloods you already got is that your balls are definitely responsive - the question is if your brain will continue to pump out sufficient amounts of GnRH. When you get your next bloods done in 4 weeks time if your levels come up anywhere near the same mark (definitely possible) you should consider yourself really lucky. 700-800ng/dl is awesome natty test to have. I don't know why you would risk shutting that down permanently.. but each to their own. Just saying I'd kill to have natty test that high lol.
Another thing to consider; your break up and depression is probably influencing your decision quite a lot. My advice would be to wait out the next 4-8 weeks, and THEN make a decision if you can hold out for another month, or two months, etc. You might be feeling a lot better down the track and realise you don't want to be married to a needle. You can still use gear for many years to come without being stuck on it... you just gotta do it smart. Main thing to remember is - the longer break you give your body, the better off you will be.
Black Beard
@ X450 Gravity
First off, you will never know if you are shut down or not because you don't have your natural baseline from before the cycle. Secondly, it's too soon to see what your test levels are. You need to wait a while so that the serms are out of your system.
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