srobles619
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Like gold in a bottle!
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jjtattoofreak
You've woken up the Demon
definate difference fo sho.....
srobles619
new to the game
yeah his back is defiantly widening and tapering at the bottom as well.... this guy is a beast at the gym he will spend so much time in the rack its a joke i find my self staring in aw at the gym and all i can think is "FUCK man can wait to get on some gear" hahahah he is my inspiration and defiantly has helped me out a bunch
hogman
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Thats awsome bro, Thanks!
hogman
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I didn't think it could get better but it did. Week 5 and 6 have been off the chain!!!
glad to hear looking forward to following your progress.
Proviron (Mesterolone) is the closest thing we have to orally active Dihydrotestosterone (DHT). It’s basically methylated (1-methyl) DHT. As a result, Proviron is not capable of being metabolized (aromatized) to estrogen, and is also not progestenic. It’s actually pretty light on the liver, and not very toxic at all, as it is not c17-Alpha-Alkylated, but rather is 1-methylated. And of course, being a DHT-based compound, this stuff isn't going to be great for female athletes to use in high doses, although from interviews with females, 12.5-25mgs a day seems to be very tolerable. Virilization (development of male sexual characteristics) is going to be a concern for women daring enough to try this stuff at high doses.
Proviron is typically thought of as a hardening agent, and as being not very anabolic on its own. I don’t know of too many men who use it at anything resembling high doses, but personally I’d love to see what it can do at a 50-100mg/day dose- essentially, that’s the dose range we see orally administered DHT compounds being used at, for an anabolic effect. At 25mgs/day it’s going to function as a bit of an anti-estrogen and a libido booster, but probably won’t be building much muscle.
A very interesting fact about Proviron is that it binds very well to SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin) which is the transport hormone responsible for reducing the amount of circulating free testosterone in your body.(1) It actually binds to SHBG better than almost any other anabolic steroid that I’m aware of. Proviron also binds to the Anabolic Receptor (AR) better than any commercially available oral anabolic .(1) While the previous two effects are certainly desirable effects, this oral version of DHT also has a very high affinity for binding to receptors in the scalp and prostate, causing some possible nasty side effects, like male pattern baldness and prostate enlargement.
So what we have here is a steroid which can possibly make other steroids more effective by inhibiting SHBG from attaching to them, and also has the additional benefit of reducing the amount of overall estrogen in the body. It’s not the kind of steroid that we can base a cycle around, but I think that those properties certainly make it beneficial for adding it into virtually any cycle. This of course also provides a hard, quality look to muscle that’s gained on a cycle, and an overall improvement in the look of the physique. Also, up to 100-150mgs/day it has no depressing effect on low to normal serum FSH and LH levels (2). In fact, if your natural hormonal levels are depressed, it may even be able to raise LH (3), which can then raise your natural testosterone levels.
So Proviron is very synergistic, but what I’ve found from interviews with people as well as in studies, it’s not very effective on it’s own.(4)
Although the genuine, brand name “Proviron” is not found frequently on the Black and many Underground Labs don't even produce it, it’s available as a paper anabolic, at a reasonably inexpensive cost.
References:
1. Relative binding affinity of anabolic-androgenic steroids: comparison of the binding to the androgen receptors in skeletal muscle and in prostate, as well as to sex hormone-binding globulin.Endocrinology. 1984 Jun;114(6):2100-6.
2. The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.Int J Gynaecol Obstet. 1988 Feb;26(1):121-8
3. The effects of mesterolone, a male sex hormone in depressed patients (a double blind controlled study). Methods Find Exp Clin Pharmacol. 1984 Jun;6(6):331-7.
4. [Androgen substitution in the andrological disease picture] Andrologia. 1983 May-Jun;15(3):283-6. German.
Proviron is typically thought of as a hardening agent, and as being not very anabolic on its own. I don’t know of too many men who use it at anything resembling high doses, but personally I’d love to see what it can do at a 50-100mg/day dose- essentially, that’s the dose range we see orally administered DHT compounds being used at, for an anabolic effect. At 25mgs/day it’s going to function as a bit of an anti-estrogen and a libido booster, but probably won’t be building much muscle.
A very interesting fact about Proviron is that it binds very well to SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin) which is the transport hormone responsible for reducing the amount of circulating free testosterone in your body.(1) It actually binds to SHBG better than almost any other anabolic steroid that I’m aware of. Proviron also binds to the Anabolic Receptor (AR) better than any commercially available oral anabolic .(1) While the previous two effects are certainly desirable effects, this oral version of DHT also has a very high affinity for binding to receptors in the scalp and prostate, causing some possible nasty side effects, like male pattern baldness and prostate enlargement.
So what we have here is a steroid which can possibly make other steroids more effective by inhibiting SHBG from attaching to them, and also has the additional benefit of reducing the amount of overall estrogen in the body. It’s not the kind of steroid that we can base a cycle around, but I think that those properties certainly make it beneficial for adding it into virtually any cycle. This of course also provides a hard, quality look to muscle that’s gained on a cycle, and an overall improvement in the look of the physique. Also, up to 100-150mgs/day it has no depressing effect on low to normal serum FSH and LH levels (2). In fact, if your natural hormonal levels are depressed, it may even be able to raise LH (3), which can then raise your natural testosterone levels.
So Proviron is very synergistic, but what I’ve found from interviews with people as well as in studies, it’s not very effective on it’s own.(4)
Although the genuine, brand name “Proviron” is not found frequently on the Black and many Underground Labs don't even produce it, it’s available as a paper anabolic, at a reasonably inexpensive cost.
References:
1. Relative binding affinity of anabolic-androgenic steroids: comparison of the binding to the androgen receptors in skeletal muscle and in prostate, as well as to sex hormone-binding globulin.Endocrinology. 1984 Jun;114(6):2100-6.
2. The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.Int J Gynaecol Obstet. 1988 Feb;26(1):121-8
3. The effects of mesterolone, a male sex hormone in depressed patients (a double blind controlled study). Methods Find Exp Clin Pharmacol. 1984 Jun;6(6):331-7.
4. [Androgen substitution in the andrological disease picture] Andrologia. 1983 May-Jun;15(3):283-6. German.
PeanutButter
Get'n big 1 rep at a time
Great log Hog. Your excitement is getting me hyped making me want to go to the gym right now lol. Anyway would somebody be kind enough to PM me and let me know some more about this ambrowave i must feel the smoooothness you talk about.
I'm starting a sust/deca cycle tomorrow but wouldnt mind adding ambro to my stash anyway.
I'm starting a sust/deca cycle tomorrow but wouldnt mind adding ambro to my stash anyway.
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italianstallion
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start ur own thread if u want to get answers
hogman
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Ok so I got sick again!!! I had to stay out of the gym for 5 days!!! I also got a kink in my neck from laying in bed too much. So im batting 1000 but I still have a few weeks to make up for it.
I hit legs today but I didn't do squats because of my neck. I hit 730lb on the leg press for 8 reps.
Also I just took my first dose of Var. I am bumping it up to 50mg ed and only running it for 5 weeks.
I will post pics early next week.
I hit legs today but I didn't do squats because of my neck. I hit 730lb on the leg press for 8 reps.
Also I just took my first dose of Var. I am bumping it up to 50mg ed and only running it for 5 weeks.
I will post pics early next week.
PeanutButter
Get'n big 1 rep at a time
nice #'s and let us know how you like the var. good job man and nomore getting sick lol
hogman
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No shit! i hate getting sick. One bad side effect of haveing kids.
jjtattoofreak
You've woken up the Demon
I dunno bout Anavar (var) but I am super fucking stiff and pumped from the dianabol, like my muscles are working out while I sit on my ass...... feel like I am gonna pop....
PeanutButter
Get'n big 1 rep at a time
cant speak from experience, but its probably got your muscles real tight gettin bigger and shit. hows the strength and workouts
J
juiceman2027
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normal. do u stretch?
hogman
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Not as much as i should but I am going to start doing more. thanks for the input.
J
juiceman2027
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seems to help me when i get tight, my shoulders get so bad that i cant stand it i stretch em bout 7 or 8 times in the gym sux so bad.
