Liquid IGF-1

[Trevdog]

Trev -
No one can argue your point regarding a sterile environment. What the contention is at room temp is not sterility but rather a degradation of the IGF molecular chain. This degradation (not because of sterility) causes the product to become inert and inactive.

The mfg says the degradation is slowed down when kept at "freezing" temps, therefore the need to insure it is stored in the freezer after reconstitution.

MH

Ok I see your point but admittedly the manufacturer has offered no opinion whatsoever about the stablity of IGF in BA, correct?

I think you are extrapolating too much out of what they communicated to you. This is especially true when you consider that storing it at room temperature in BA is arguably now standard practice - at least there can be no dispute that a lot of people are doing it. Under your theory, all the great results and sides being reported by a growing body of people would have to be explained away as "the placebo effect". I'm not buying it, especially because I'm one of those people.

 

[Ifrit]

Alright so who here is going to be the test monkey for the LR IGF-1? I personally don't have the money for that right now and due to it's contraversy I don't think I would shell out $250 anyway.

 

[muslhead]

Ifrit -
You already have two "monkeys" in Trev and myself who have tried it.
Flat out ... the stuff works!

Trev -

Ok I see your point but admittedly the manufacturer has offered no opinion whatsoever about the stablity of IGF in BA, correct?

You are absolutely correct. All of their studies were in an acidic reconstitutant HCl. Since no studies have been done with BA there is no way to know for sure. Anecdotal evidence is all we have.

I think you are extrapolating too much out of what they communicated to you.

Maybe, but probably not. I am not extrapolating BTW, it was their extrapolation not mine. The point is that it is not the reconstitutant that is the issue it is the room temp that is of concern. The IGF-1 molecule is not stable at room temp for extended periods. Maybe the BA helps it out.

Under your theory, all the great results and sides being reported by a growing body of people would have to be explained away as "the placebo effect"

Absolutely untrue. My point is this, since no one knows for sure how long it will be biologically active at room temp in BA, it would behoove the owner of it to store it at as close to freezing as possible (per the manufacturers recommendations) so as to get the most out of its shelf life. If you chose to do otherwise, you take your chances in having an inert, inactive product.
MH

 

[thate]

I don't think I would shell out $250 anyway.

Actually bro $250 is a great price and I doubt you will ever find it cheaper, some other places are selling it for $365.

 

[muslhead]

Actually bro $250 is a great price and I doubt you will ever find it cheaper, some other places are selling it for $365.

$250 is a great price if buying in 1mg increments.
If you buy more, can be had for as low as $100/mg.

MH

 

[StoneColdNTO]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15519

 

[bigdelt69]

First off you can add me to the list of 'users' for IGF-1. I paid 365 bucks for mine but at the time it was all I could find. Mine came suspended in 2ml of BA and I keep it in the fridge. Been working fine so far, but it does seem as so if the better part of the gains stop after about week two. This could be to the fact to the molecule goes through some degration as the longer it sits, room temp or not.

 

[slobberknocker]

250 is good compared to what I've seen. Still a bit high for me to justify trying it yet. I'll wait until the price starts coming down.