Looking to do a short ester Cycle, questions?

[BicepsPoontang]

I done a short ester as a kicker for a long ester cycle, but what's a decent short ester cycle 8 weeks or more? And I guess for PCT it's sooner rather then later with long esters?

This Short ester I am thinking or thinking of taking is with Tren. I have done several long esters with Tren, This time going to try short ester. ****NO SOURCE TALK **********
Also going to try Masteron too, which I guess is good for cutting. The only problem my BF% isn't low enough and I am wondering if I should try to get it lower? Thoughts?

It's at 18% now. I was at 16% but left the USA and ate like crap. I am back now, and dialing in my diet.

Looking to do Tren Masteron and Test Prop so I don't get decca dick from Tren.

If you need my BMR or TDEE I have them just not if front of me right now.

I have caber too and never had to use it one long esters, not looking forward to sweats as my buddy said he sweated like a pig on short esters and I never had Tren cough which I'm wondering if short ester the chances are greater. Yay!

I have HCG and AI and Letro if needed.

I am just not on the up and up on short ester cycles just yet.

Thanks fellas for chiming in.

Cheers! BicepsPoontang......Lol!

 

[Teutonic]

I m doing Test Prop 50mg and tren-a 50 mg MWF and some weeks M-Friday and like what I see, feel. Sides are almost zero. Water retention almost zero. Strength for me is off the chart s (225x 20 plus bench, Squat 365 x 12-15 etc ) but I m looking to stay lean as I m in gay porn so....

 

[Milton]

I m doing Test Prop 50mg and tren-a 50 mg MWF and some weeks M-Friday and like what I see, feel. Sides are almost zero. Water retention almost zero. Strength for me is off the chart s (225x 20 plus bench, Squat 365 x 12-15 etc ) but I m looking to stay lean as I m in gay porn so....

Thanks for the update, looking forward to your logs!

 

[appleton111]

I m doing Test Prop 50mg and tren-a 50 mg MWF and some weeks M-Friday and like what I see, feel. Sides are almost zero. Water retention almost zero. Strength for me is off the chart s (225x 20 plus bench, Squat 365 x 12-15 etc ) but I m looking to stay lean as I m in gay porn so....

in front or behind the camera?

 

[BicepsPoontang]

I m doing Test Prop 50mg and tren-a 50 mg MWF and some weeks M-Friday and like what I see, feel. Sides are almost zero. Wa
ter retention almost zero. Strength for me is off the chart s (225x 20 plus bench, Squat 365 x 12-15 etc ) but I m looking to stay lean as I m in gay porn so....

I think I need to lean out to 12% BF before I get on this cycle, what's your thought on a cycle, not more then ten weeks? Tren A Short Ester

 

[BicepsPoontang]

I m doing Test Prop 50mg and tren-a 50 mg MWF and some weeks M-Friday and like what I see, feel. Sides are almost zero. Water retention almost zero. Strength for me is off the chart s (225x 20 plus bench, Squat 365 x 12-15 etc ) but I m looking to stay lean as I m in gay porn so....

I'm doing 225 X 20 as a warm up

 

[Milton]

I think I need to lean out to 12% BF before I get on this cycle, what's your thought on a cycle, not more then ten weeks? Tren A Short Ester

mct oil therapy it to lean out.

 

[BicepsPoontang]

mct oil therapy it to lean out.

What is mct oil? Use it in my diet or in my homebrew? I was thinking of an HCG diet to get leaner for my short ester cycle.

 

[Teutonic]

^^^^^^^^^^that s stuff s a myth ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My foray into porn is me and 49 er s secret lmao

 

[appleton111]

What is mct oil? Use it in my diet or in my homebrew? I was thinking of an HCG diet to get leaner for my short ester cycle.

3J wrote a great thread on MCT oil found in coconut here in the forum http://www.steroidology.com/forum/d...ocol-weight-loss-3j.html?highlight=mct+oil+3j

 

[appleton111]

^^^^^^^^^^that s stuff s a myth ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My foray into porn is me and 49 er s secret lmao

put me down for season 1 and 2

 

[oldmusclemike]

I personally don't think cycles less then 12 weeks are worth doing if you intend on building any mass. There is so many things that have to synergistically come together to produce the growth of more muscle mass and actually grow it into it's being mass. That's why we don't see much progress and results showing until the 5th week with say Test E.

Now I will agree that if the purpose of the cycle is to keep what mass you have and keeping it hard n firm while LOSSING weight a cycle less then 12 weeks is a doable thing. The increased speed of the metabolism by exogenous testosterone naturally will benefit the process.

This ^^ IMOP

 

[Teutonic]

I think I need to lean out to 12% BF before I get on this cycle, what's your thought on a cycle, not more then ten weeks? Tren A Short Ester

U do mean with a test base right ?
I been on my short estered SHORT cycle for ..well...I mean.. a bit.

 

[BicepsPoontang]

I personally don't think cycles less then 12 weeks are worth doing if you intend on building any mass. There is so many things that have to synergistically come together to produce the growth of more muscle mass and actually grow it into it's being mass. That's why we don't see much progress and results showing until the 5th week with say Test E.

Now I will agree that if the purpose of the cycle is to keep what mass you have and keeping it hard n firm while LOSSING weight a cycle less then 12 weeks is a doable thing. The increased speed of the metabolism by exogenous testosterone naturally will benefit the process.

This ^^ IMOP

I have done mostly 20 week cycles or 16 or 18 very rarely have I done less then 16. But since this is Tren A super harsh on our livers I was wondering if ten weeks is to long? That's why I was thinking an 8 week cycle.

 

[BicepsPoontang]

3J wrote a great thread on MCT oil found in coconut here in the forum http://www.steroidology.com/forum/d...ocol-weight-loss-3j.html?highlight=mct+oil+3j

Thanks for the reference, interesting read! Thank you!

 

[oldmusclemike]

I have done mostly 20 week cycles or 16 or 18 very rarely have I done less then 16. But since this is Tren A super harsh on our livers I was wondering if ten weeks is to long? That's why I was thinking an 8 week cycle.

OK very cool I may not understand, typical of me.

How about laying out the entire protocol for your cycle in an outline form. Start to finish, compounds and mgs ea week, Week to week

 

[tx045]

Your screen name is cool

 

[Teutonic]

tx- your avatar IS KOOL...geeeez..a muscle manican....with a pulse.

Is that not how you spell "manican?"

u still spell "Mexican", Mexican or...damn it.

 

[oldmusclemike]

tx- your avatar IS KOOL...geeeez..a muscle manican....with a pulse.

Is that not how you spell "manican?"

u still spell "Mexican", Mexican or...damn it.

ah hahhaaa This ^^^^ LMAO

 

[BicepsPoontang]

OK very cool I may not understand, typical of me.

How about laying out the entire protocol for your cycle in an outline form. Start to finish, compounds and mgs ea week, Week to week

So I am really not sure just yet on an outline for my short ester protocol, hoping someone more experienced in short ester cycles could chime in. But since my BF% is high I think I will try to get it lower before I jump on the short ester cycle. Do you think 12 weeks is to long for short ester Tren? I don't mind pinning myself ED or E2d just thought Tren A will be super harsh on my liver. Though I will take 1200 mg's of NAC everyday. Plus HCG twice a week 500IU like long esters. Plus i'll use peptides as well. Like Ghrp-2 w. Mod-129

I am wondering maybe doing more Tren A then my Test Prop, but have done more test and less test with long ester Tren E before.