Mildest cycle I can think of....

[clubfootedmidget]

Again I am at it trying to figure out what is best for me. I am leery of hair loss and liver damage.

These are the cycles I am considering:

1.
Anavar
Winny
Primo or Tren
Clen


2.
Anavar
Anadrol (1 tab every two days)
Tren
Clen


3.
Anavar
Clen

4.
Tren
Clen
Tribistan

5.
Anavar
D-bol (1 pill a day 2 weeks/ 2 pills a day weeks 3-6)
Clen


I am trying to keep the side effects low and the strength up, and perhaps gain some size in my legs as I lose weight.


I continue to read and read and read... keep in mind I don't want to get huge like a lot of you do. However, everyone I speak to locally says that the 1st cycle is the one where you make the best gains and they say not to waste it.

I however want moderation. Using Enanthate and dbol does not seem moderate enough to me.

The only reason I consider adding the Anadrol is because it is cheap here and if I don't take more than 1 every few days or so I minimize the side effects while gaining some of the anabolic effects to aid in recovery and protien synthesis as I bust my ass on the cardio.

I would consider dbol as well because It is less toxic than Anadrol and I can feel it out better than anadrol in determining my limit.


The majority of the users I know personally (and I know many) agree that the 'bad' side effects come from years of usage and abuse.

I am not considering a post cycle therapy because I don't intend on raising the levels so high that I have the severe crash's that everyone else does.

I consider the anavar due to it's mild effects, the tren or primo for the hardness and increase in metabolism... the Winstrol (winny) just because I read everywhere it is the cutting drug (though would it benefit to take at the same time as anavar.. this is something I don't know) and again the dbol or anadrol for an anabolic burst here and there to assist in recovery to maximize the effects of the drugs.

The tribistan because it will elevate test levels after a cycle... just in case. I almost am interested in seeing what a woman will use for her cycle since they tend to want to use things that won't have the worst possible side effects.

Please don't criticize me for being weary.. it is just that I get so much conflicting information and there is no absolute authority, I compare what is mentioned on these forums with my many friends first hand experiences with the drugs.

 

[JohnnyB]

Var

JohnnyB

 

[Judo Tom]

var only
test only
var + test

basically keep the dosages low and the 17a's OUT (cept for var)

 

[grafixLSUalum]

your worried about liver, but i see anadrol and Anavar (var) and d-bol mentioned??

 

[RoadHouse]

no matter what you take, save anavar, you will need post cycle therapy. One anadrol eod is not good for your body, with hormone flucuations like that, expect a lot of acne.

A mild cycle?
300mg of Test cyp or Eth
Proscar to save your hair

 

[70w30]

Whats wrong with Anavar (var) and liver issues.I thought that for an oral,it was the safest of all.With almost no sides

 

[Nutri-Wrestler]

how bout EQ and winny?
400mg/week eq
50mg ed winny

this will get you hard, strong, and vascular

 

[jcp2]

Whats wrong with Anavar (var) and liver issues.I thought that for an oral,it was the safest of all.With almost no sides

It is the safest, Anavar (var) i beleive is broken down more so in the kidneys. Doesn't cause major stress on the liver, i assume it doesn't cause major stress on the kidneys either since i have never heard of any problems.

 

[Chins]

EQ/WINNY/VAR

 

[natty]

if u are so worried about these things and dont have what it takes to keep the possible problems in check, then dont do anything at all.

however if sides are a huge issue might i suggest the following as an example:

Var 20-50mg ed 1-6
Creatine Monohydrate with Carb load of some sort 10-20g/ed
EQ 750mg/week 1-16
-if it was easy to get i would suggest to add primo depot 400mg for weeks 8-16

 

[natty]

And for all you people who are convinced that Anavar (var) does not inhibit test levels.....my nuts are pretty damn shrunk on 20mg for the past almost 10 weeks and no liver elevation problems at all too btw nut shrinkage could be chemo though.

i would say its pretty damn mild

 

[The Bionic Man]

None of the cycles you list are "mild".
And Anavar isn't as mild as people think. It's less harsh than some other orals, but the fact still remains that it's an oral, and therefore it must pass through the lever (twice, think, right?). And you've got tren in a few of those cycles...tren certainly isn't mild.
Don't get me wrong, I love tren, test, Winstrol (winny) and anavar.
But you said you're looking for something mild. From your comments it looks like this is your first cycle. You said Enanthate and dbol is "too mild" for you, but thats a great, and classic first cycle: 500 mg Enanthate per week and 30 mg dbol per day.

You say you don't want to get big. Well, that's all got to do with diet. We all have heard and probably know of people who have stayed lean while on test and dbol.

You say you don't plan on doing post cycle therapy because you don't plan on getting your test levels too high that you'd nned clomid or nolva or some other post cycle therapy.
Well then I guess you don't want to see any results on this cycle either...and you were told that you're first cycle is your most important.

I would do a little more research...it seems like you have some ideas in your head that aren't exactly the best. Read the boards a little more, ask a few more questions just like this...that's how we all learn!