More Tren Ace then Test Enth per wk?

[shizz]

I have been reading recently, that people suggest taking in less test then tren pw, do to its strength by nature.

Im currently taking in 500mg of test enth pw along w/ 20mg of ostarine pd and 12.5mg of aromasin eod.

I am going to add tren ace this wk and think im gonna go w/ either 50 or 100mg eod. So my question is:

Should I continue at 500mg pw of test, or should I drop it down to 250mg pw along side the tren?

 

[1handfreak]

I would say 250-300 mg of test is plenty. I'm currently running tren with 200mg of test.

 

[ironbutterfly]

The tren will take over those recepters and boot the test out. Waste of test.100 is as low as id go .100/month

 

[ironbutterfly]

Don't take all that Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with the tren your taking too much now on that low dose,wasting it

 

[Chi23]

i agree run the test lower around 200-250 and the tren need to be at the very least 75mg eod

 

[4everBulking]

a good test/tren cycle would look like this..

wk1-12/test/250mgs/wk
wk1-12/trenA/600mgs/wk

when taking tren i find that it is ok to take just enough test to keep you dick from not working.

 

[brownchoclit]

600mg's of tren/week ??? definitely on the upper limit of the tren doses i have seen people using in general...

 

[vader69]

a good test/tren cycle would look like this..

wk1-12/test/250mgs/wk
wk1-12/trenA/600mgs/wk

when taking tren i find that it is ok to take just enough test to keep you dick from not working.

wtf? are you srsly advising him to take 600 mgs of tren a ?

some of the fucked up doses I see on the internet are crazy in real life I dont know anyone who does over 500 mgs and there HUGE

 

[josh223]

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[rage racing]

250test and 400tren for me.

 

[JimiThing]

The tren will take over those recepters and boot the test out. Waste of test.100 is as low as id go .100/month

This whole post is ridiculous man. Tren wont t "take over" shit. Also 100mgs test/month wont even replace your natural production of test.
I agree its fine to run test lower. I do it all the time.
This post is off the mark though. You should read up a bit before passing this info on. You could hurt someone.

 

[MeatHead96]

I'm on 200mg test/400mg tren ace

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

wtf? are you srsly advising him to take 600 mgs of tren a ?

some of the fucked up doses I see on the internet are crazy in real life I dont know anyone who does over 500 mgs and there HUGE

Yea but the guys you know are taking a gram of test with it cause they follow the bro lore myth of taking 2x the test as tren, which equals 1500mg total. If he does it his way, the right way, and keeps T low, he can get the same results with less AAS. Tren has been proven to be less harmful on prostate and hemo. mg per mg vs test. Tren is also much stronger, so why would you want more test than tren?

I started talking about this a year or two ago on the boards, everyone said I was crazy, now its seems almost everyone does it this way, and gets results with far less sides.

 

[chain]

This is my test tren ratio 350 test- 500 tren.
Remember I didn't wake up one day and said this is what I'm gonna do. I found the right spot after various cycles and this soothes best.

One problem I have with the idea of running test below tren is some guys don't do enough research and are scared of tren and end up doing a test 100/w and tren 200/ w cycle. Waste !

 

[ironbutterfly]

This whole post is ridiculous man. Tren wont t "take over" shit. Also 100mgs test/month wont even replace your natural production of test.
I agree its fine to run test lower. I do it all the time.
This post is off the mark though. You should read up a bit before passing this info on. You could hurt someone.

i don't have any nateral production and i run the tren alot lower meathead.tren will take over the recepters and is 4to 5 times stronger than your test.

 

[JimiThing]

i don't have any nateral production and i run the tren alot lower meathead.tren will take over the recepters and is 4to 5 times stronger than your test.

Not a clue to be found ......
Look bro it doesnt work that way.
what do you think there are like 500 receptors ansd the test and tren have a race and becuase tren is stronger it wins? Get a grip man.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Not a clue to be found ......

Just because you can't find info on it does not mean it isn't true, but since I always come prepared when I post here is a study proving that tren is not only stronger, but has less harmful effect.

Our results demonstrate that TREN prevents the deleterious alterations in body composition associated with ORX to the same extent as supraphysiological TE. Specifically, we observed that 1) regardless of dose, TREN and supraphysiological TE produced equally myotrophic responses in the androgen-sensitive LABC muscle complex in both intact and ORX animals, 2) TREN partially prevented ORX-induced bone loss to roughly the same extent as supraphysiological TE, and 3) at equal doses, TREN was somewhat more lipolytic than TE in visceral fat. In contrast, the lowest doses of TREN maintained prostate mass and Hb concentrations at the level of shams in both intact and orchiectomized animals, whereas supraphysiological TE and high-dose TREN produced prostate enlargement and/or elevations in Hb. Thus, at the lowest doses administered, TREN appears to have a higher and more clinically favorable anabolic/androgenic ratio than supraphysiological TE.

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So as far as which is better, minute doses of tren were as or more effective that supra-physiological doses of test............and safer

Now as far as "tren takes over test" what he was talking about is androgen receptor competition. Since tren binds to the AR with a much higher affinity, in theory those spaces could be used up by the tren leaving the testosterone no where to go. Some will argue we have plenty of receptors, but if tren is more powerful, why argue?

It is possible, so why set it up like that?

On top of that results and feedback have shown the results to be better, along with the above study.

Thanks for your time Jimi class is now dismissed

 

[JimiThing]

Just because you can't find info on it does not mean it isn't true, but since I always come prepared when I post here is a study proving that tren is not only stronger, but has less harmful effect.



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So as far as which is better, minute doses of tren were as or more effective that supra-physiological doses of test............and safer

Now as far as "tren takes over test" what he was talking about is androgen receptor competition. Since tren binds to the AR with a much higher affinity, in theory those spaces could be used up by the tren leaving the testosterone no where to go. Some will argue we have plenty of receptors, but if tren is more powerful, why argue?

It is possible, so why set it up like that?

On top of that results and feedback have shown the results to be better, along with the above study.

Thanks for your time Jimi class is now dismissed

Who the hell are you? Condescending prick. If you read my posts you would see I agree runnong test lower and tren higher is better. The tren "taking over receptors rom the test" is total bullshit though and he recommended taking 100mgs of test PER MONTH.
No shit tren is more anabolic and has a higher binding affintiy..so the fvck what? Thanks for posting a study that states common knowledge. What you think every receptor is filled. Your a jackass. Class dismissed.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Who the hell are you? Condescending prick. If you read my posts you would see I agree runnong test lower and tren higher is better. The tren taking over the test is total bullshit though and he recommended taking 100mgs of test PER MONTH.
No shit tren is more anabolic and has a higher binding affintiy..so the fvck what? Thanks for posting a study that states common knowledge. What you think every receptor is filled. Your a jackass. Class dismissed.

Please explain how it is not possible that androgen receptor saturation can occur? especially the ones in target tissues.

You are the jackass, the study had nothing to do with AR binding, I imagine you missed the value of the study completely, which I am not surprised.

And please explain how his post will get someone hurt?

 

[JimiThing]

Please explain how it is not possible that androgen receptor saturation can occur? especially the ones in target tissues.

You are the jackass, the study had nothing to do with AR binding, I imagine you missed the value of the study completely, which I am not surprised.

And please explain how his post will get someone hurt?

There is no way possible AR saturation can occur... the fact you imply it would speaks volumes re: you and your lack of knowledge- which you obviously try to over compensate for. I completely understood the study and its applicability , Im in agreement that running test lower than tren is prudent - for several reasons in fact.
I think running test at 100mgs/month (as he recommended) is less than optimal for ones health ..yes in fact over time dangerous. Stop trying to associate binding affinity to receptor saturation ..its retarded ..as are your last 2 posts in this thread. Not sure what you are trying to prove but if its an AAS who's knowledge cock is bigger ...I'm your huckleberry.