Muay thai

[0nyx]

Hey, this is directed mainly to people who know their mma stuff, but if anyone else knows .. by all means , chime in

i have had an interest in muay thai for a while, i dont want to compete or nothing, just want to know some stuff. i fractured my hand in a fight last year, and it put me out of the gym for a while. i do not want this to happen again. I have noticed that muay thai has a lot of elbows/forearms and kicks.

main question. how would you go about hardening these points of attack. i am pretty sure if i land a clean elbow to the head, my elbow will hurt for a couple days lol. what do they do (any mma fighters) to strengthen and harden these points.

thanks

 

[Mudge]

You become conditioned to that point, by doing it repeatedly over and over and over and over again. Nowdays most people just use a heavy bag, you aren't training by hitting peoples heads. In my area the schools require a sparring card just to spar even with gear (headgear etc), much less are you barenuckled and hitting people in the head right off the bat.

 

[iamcdn]

You become conditioned to that point, by doing it repeatedly over and over and over and over again. Nowdays most people just use a heavy bag, you aren't training by hitting peoples heads. In my area the schools require a sparring card just to spar even with gear (headgear etc), much less are you barenuckled and hitting people in the head right off the bat.

mudge is right. you just hit the pad...over and over and over
ur elbow doesnt really need conditioning, but shins do

u probably fracture your hand by hitting the guy improperly, so just learn proper punching techniques....any street fight (without gloves and wraps) there is a huge chance of getting injured no matter what discipline you train or body parts you use

 

[Behemoth]

Yeah, it's hard to fracture your fist or break other stuff if you use proper technique.

Anyway, in my Wing Chun class, we condition our forearms by getting a partner and doing various drills where we strike our forearms together for extended periods of time. Aside from that, pad work, hitting the sand bag, the wooden dummy, etc. The wooden dummy especially hurts like hell for the first couple of weeks.

If you're really worried about it, I would recommend getting some real training. I'm partial, but I would still recommend Kung Fu over a lot of other stuff. Wing Chun specifically can create very capable fighters in a very short period of time.

 

[Mudge]

Muay Thai has an excellent history which speaks for itself But I would take Wing Tsun over TKD, for sure.

 

[ExtremeFighter99]

conditioning the limbs just takes time, i call it "calousing". also it helps to rub the shins in between rounds of pad/bag work for like 2 min ,in rapid motion in order to draw blood into the tibia.therefore strengthning the shins.after continuoulsy performing that massage it feels like you could kick steel without any discomfort

 

[inked1]

as everyone above said , it's just a matter of practice and conditioning.
If you ever see a fighter within a couple of days after they have fought, you will usually see them in a fair amount of pain.

I think most styles of kung fu are ok, but IMO kickboxing and muay thai inparticular are fair more effective and practical

 

[Mudge]

Which is probably why the Thai beat the crap out of so many challengers of the world during 1974-76 when the world wanted to see what they could do.

Kung Fu experts with "highly developed chi," Karate masters from Japan - some of them beaten in the first round. Anyone here know where Kickboxing came from? The Japanese took the knees and elbows out of Muay Thai after they got their ass handed to them, and called it Kickboxing. China and Japan both sent people officially, so they were not sending over nobodies.

Most of Europe doesn't allow fighting with knees and elbows, because they are TOO EFFECTIVE.

 

[0nyx]

wow, great information all of you. thanks a lot

extreme what is the massage you talk about?

i have a heavy bag in my basement, would you recommend every day or other day? and timelimit?

again.. thanks everyone

 

[Mudge]

Massaging something brings blood into the area for repair, to speed the process along.

 

[ExtremeFighter99]

basically putting both palms on both shins and just rapidly rubbing up and down like 200 times or even more.as far as work on the bag, its all up to your goals.are you looking to train with the bag just to get a work out out? go 3 ,3min rounds with 1 min rest in between at least 3 time a week.i would suggest finding an instructor to help you with footwork and correct form as you could easily cuase damage if not familiar with bag training especially muay thai. another secret tool to condition the limbs is a linement a like to use called "Tiger Balm".

 

[caladin]

conditioning the limbs just takes time, i call it "calousing". also it helps to rub the shins in between rounds of pad/bag work for like 2 min ,in rapid motion in order to draw blood into the tibia.therefore strengthning the shins.after continuoulsy performing that massage it feels like you could kick steel without any discomfort

I use to drop bricks on my shins from about 6-8" and slap my forearms with 1x2". Another form of Calousing! It has allowed me to strike I beams with my Forearms. Never did get my shins up to that.

 

[Cavy kidd]

Ya Muay Thai fighters are really well conditioned. I have been taking Muay Thai for six years now