My 1st Cycle - thoughts?

[skilla9ine]

Hey guys,

First off, love the site and thanks to everyone for sharing a wealth of information
here.

I'm planning my 1st cycle coming up in January.

I'm 6'2, 185 lbs, 7% bodyfat, 28 years old.

Between age 20 to 24, trained non stop, stopped from 25 to 26 due to me running my business, and then started up at 27 to now.

I have a decent build, but would like to get to that next level.

My thinking is Test-400 (Dankel Brand) at 600 mg / week for 16 weeks.

As far as the diet goes, I'm planning to hire 3jsdiet to sort that out.

The thing I'm unsure of is if I should front-load with dbol for the 1st 4 weeks to get stronger, so when Test-400 kicks in, I'll have overall more strength.

Thanks in advance!

 

[basketballkjbb]

you could use the dbol the whole 16 weeks. its about as toxic as baby aspirin

 

[skilla9ine]

you could use the dbol the whole 16 weeks. its about as toxic as baby aspirin

right lol

 

[Youngblood43]

Wk 1-4 dbol 25-50mg would be fine! Just be sure to have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand

 

[MattPorter]

Nice that you are 7% BF

So that means you can grow lean now with the addition of AAS.

Each clean and train like a maniac and you should accrue some appreciable clean LBM

I could see you being 7-9% at 205 lbs or so...

-Matt

 

[rowdybrad]

I am the same height as you and cannot physically get below 200 pounds. Are you sure you're ready for AAS as far as your diet goes bud?

If so the Test and Dbol cycle looks good bud, do a good PCT.

(just saw you are getting 3J, great choice. Maybe use him for a little bit before starting a cycle)

Basketball - Either give real advice or don't post, crap like that is gonna get someone hurt.

 

[4everBulking]

heres a good test/dbol cycle layout for you.

wk1-16/600mgs/wk/inject 2times a week, Monday A.M./thursday P.M
wk1-6/dbol/40-50mgs/wk

AI/ Arimidex - 0.25mgs/Every other day.

PCT- clomid/50/50/50/50 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

 

[basketballkjbb]

Basketball - Either give real advice or don't post, crap like that is gonna get someone hurt.

interesting, ive never heard of anyone getting any sort of permenant damage from dbol :O

because no one ever has.

 

[skilla9ine]

Thanks guys. I had my body fat tested using bodpod, and I'm also going to be using the KORR machine to get my BMR tested - so that way the caloric intake will be right on.

I have all the post cycle therapy (pct) stuff on hand right now, the only thing I'm unclear about is the post cycle therapy (pct):

post cycle therapy (pct)- clomid/50/50/50/50 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

Is it 50 per week or per day? Can you guys clarify on how to take it.

Also, I'm going to probably use 3JsDiet a month before I start to get into the habit of a clean diet so that way I'm not making any mistakes.

 

[4everBulking]

Thanks guys. I had my body fat tested using bodpod, and I'm also going to be using the KORR machine to get my BMR tested - so that way the caloric intake will be right on.

I have all the PCT stuff on hand right now, the only thing I'm unclear about is the PCT:

PCT- clomid/50/50/50/50 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

Is it 50 per week or per day? Can you guys clarify on how to take it.

Also, I'm going to probably use 3JsDiet a month before I start to get into the habit of a clean diet so that way I'm not making any mistakes.

50/50/50/50 is 50mgs everyday for 4 weeks.

 

[skilla9ine]

Thanks for clarifying this! Greatly appreciated.

So I'll be taking

Clomid at 50mg daily for 4 weeks, and also Nolvadex 40 mg daily for the 1st 2 weeks, then 2 mg daily for the second 2 weeks?



clomid/50/50/50/50 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

 

[skilla9ine]

Another thing, I have Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on hand too, should I use that as well?

 

[MattPorter]

Another thing, I have Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on hand too, should I use that as well?

Then 2 mgs daily for teh second week? HUH?

Dude -- just take the clomid then run nolva at 10-20 mgs for 2-4 weeks after the clomid.

I personally hate the way I feel on serms and rather just use Aromasin at 25 mgs a day for 4-6 weeks and Sodium d aspartate and 7,8 benzoflavone for lh/fsh and mood.

-Matt

 

[skilla9ine]

Thanks guys!