My 1st Steroid Cycle. Testosterone-Enanthate, Aromasin & Nolvadex.
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DrHiney
Meathead University
Ehh... It is slightly complicated. The half life does not change from one manufacturer to another, as it is purely based on how many carbon atoms the ester has, which is the same from acetate to acetate. The more carbon atoms the ester has, the longer the half life of that ester. Here is a list of the number of carbon atoms each ester has (this is from memory but I believe I have them all correct):
Formate 1
Acetate 2
Propionate 3
Butyrate 4
Valerate 5
Hexanoate 6
Heptanoate 7
Enanthate 7
Octanoate 8
Cypionate 8
Nonanoate 9
Decanoate 10
Undecanoate 11
The esters with higher concentration of carbon atoms (longer half-lives) are more soluble in oil.
The enzyme esterase is responsible for the breakdown of testosterone from oil into the body. Esterase uses water in a process called hydrolysis to separate the ester into an acid, and an alcohol. THIS is where I believe the discrepancy comes from as far as the exact day of half-life elimination. We do not all have the same amount of enzymes in our bodies, this can have a small effect on elimination. Also certain catalysts could slightly increase the activity of the enzymes. There are also certain esterase inhibitors in the body, however the mechanism of action of most of these begins to go over my head :/
DrHiney
Meathead University
Just be careful when doing this. #1 if you apply pressure with your fingers, you are possibly rubbing oils and bacteria into the injection site. #2 There is a risk of actually pushing the oil out the site if too much pressure is applied. Using the Z-tracking technique I showed you should help prevent #2.
Aspirating is becoming an outdated technique. I only mention this because you are self administering shots into the glute which makes it difficult to keep the syringe from wiggling (like you mentioned). Once you get your technique down, it sure doesn't hurt anything to aspirate.
messymatt
New member
Cheers, thanks for the help on half lives. That defiantly makes more sense. I'm gonna get stuck into a bit of revision over the weekend to see if I can develop a better understanding.
To be honest, the applying pressure technique hasn't really done me any favors. Still plenty of PIP just like the first site. I won't be doing it again, especially if I'm running a risk of pushing oil out of the injection site. I did apply pressure with an alcohol swab so should be safe enough there. I can see me becoming quite anal about sterility. Both glutes have now been done so I think I'm gonna hit right quad on Monday. Should be a little easier.
messymatt
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Not sure what this means, but thanks for coming.
messymatt
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Update
11lbs of LBM in 29 days? See the 28th Dec to 25th Jan. Seems a bit much? I thought typically 4lb of LBM a month was considered good gains. This is pre cycle also. Cycle start date was 21/01/13.
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11lbs of LBM in 29 days? See the 28th Dec to 25th Jan. Seems a bit much? I thought typically 4lb of LBM a month was considered good gains. This is pre cycle also. Cycle start date was 21/01/13.
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olppenheimer
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Hey guys
Im 5 foot 8 170 lbs and very cut all my like im 27 yrs old
I have test c
I am going to copy the format above as im a first timer as well
I want to run 500mg/ 250 2wice a week for 12 weeks
And as far as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) ill do whats above as well.
As far as post I will have nolva clomid and hcg
Any advice on the hcg?
If someone can outline the ideal cycle/dose that would be amazing.
Thanks in advance.
Im 5 foot 8 170 lbs and very cut all my like im 27 yrs old
I have test c
I am going to copy the format above as im a first timer as well
I want to run 500mg/ 250 2wice a week for 12 weeks
And as far as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) ill do whats above as well.
As far as post I will have nolva clomid and hcg
Any advice on the hcg?
If someone can outline the ideal cycle/dose that would be amazing.
Thanks in advance.
messymatt
New member
Do a search or start a thread. Rather than pissing on my parade pal.
DrHiney
Meathead University
As to be expected. Just be glad you aren't running hCG during this cycle. It can exacerbate this issue for some. It can be inconvenient at times but it's better than the alternative IMO.
GoPro
New member
Bro, you can hit 200lbs naturally with no problems. Hit 200, or close to it, then think about gear. I have a crazy high metab and still hit 180lbs with just workingout and really watching my diet (high casl, carbs, protien) to stack on pounds. You would have better results if you put on some weight.
If I can give my opinion on this, it's placebo. Drug has barely kicked in. I also had the same thing at the time and looking now I can see mine was placebo. Just my 2 cents.
Also, why are people telling him not to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? I thought hcg and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) were recommended for every cycle.
messymatt
New member
There is nothing 'placebo' about having a hard dick Renat0.
Kreiger
Member
Allow me to disagree, my friend. You barely injected 600mg (considering enanthate has a 70% pure testosterone due to ester weight) of slow release testosterone... That's barely any difference at all. You're just feeling more confident. Once again, this is my opinion. Dick is yours so you might know better.
You or me might be wrong, maybe the more advanced users can have a say about this.
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Gregory450
New member
If I can had my 2 cents....
I started taking Testosterone Enanthate on January 9th. This is my first cycle ever. I am taking 250 mg two times per week. Tomorrow will be the 3 week mark. Today will be
my ''7th'' shot. In my case, I didn't notice any kick-in yet in the gym and my penis and libido are still the same.
Also I think my gear is of good quality since it comes in glass vials of 1 cc.
Having this said, everybody is different. Maybe your body reacts different from mine.
I started taking Testosterone Enanthate on January 9th. This is my first cycle ever. I am taking 250 mg two times per week. Tomorrow will be the 3 week mark. Today will be
my ''7th'' shot. In my case, I didn't notice any kick-in yet in the gym and my penis and libido are still the same.
Also I think my gear is of good quality since it comes in glass vials of 1 cc.
Having this said, everybody is different. Maybe your body reacts different from mine.
messymatt
New member
Hahaha, hey, we're all entitled to our own opinion mate. Yours included. That said, we are all very different. I have injected 900mg to be fair, and I am defiantly noticing signs. I'm much less patient and have frequent erections. I know this not only by the number I'm getting during the day but also I am now waking up with them daily. They have been very intermittent the last 6 months or so, which clearly suggests my test levels have been on the decline. Another reason for the cycle. No significant strength gains as of yet.
I'll refrain from comments on my phallus in future posts. I'd hate for the thread to digress so much so that it gets moved to the 'homo forum'
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