My First Cycle any recommendations !!!!
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elijah_123
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What about post cycle therapy (pct)? You wanna loose whatever you happen to gain?
Winny and Test prop should NOT be injected every 3 days. EOD at the least and ED is the best solution. Same for dbol it isn't an every 2 day drug, it is best when taken 3+ times a day in divided doses.
Another questions why test prop, dbol and Winstrol (winny)? WHat are your goals? If it is to get big and stay fairly lean drop the Winstrol (winny) and run fina through out. If it to cut up drop the dbol and run fina through out.
Last but not least. You have been training for a year, and haven't done any cycles. Why all three drugs? You would do great on a test only run or test/dbol or test/tren
However if you want to use numerous compounds lets plan them for your goals.
Modification for bulking:
Wk 1-4 Dbol 35mg ED (split doses)
Wk 1-8 Test prop 75mg ED (or 150m EOD if you must)
Wk 1-8 Tren ace 75mg EOD
Wk 9-10 40mg Nolva ED
Wk 11-12 20mg Nolva ED
Modified to cut:
Wk 1-8 Test prop 75mg ED (or 150m EOD if you must)
Wk 1-8 Tren ace 75mg EOD
Wk 4-8 Winstrol (winny) 50mg ED
Wk 9-10 40mg Nolva ED
Wk 11-12 20mg Nolva ED
If you want to use the 3 compounds you listed try this:
Wk 1-4 Dbol 35mg split into 4 doses
Wk 1-8 Test prop 75mg ED
Wk 5-8 Winstrol (winny) 50mg ED (maybe split this to two doses if you want)
Wk 9-10 40mg Nolva ED
Wk 11-12 20mg Nolva ED
Winny and Test prop should NOT be injected every 3 days. EOD at the least and ED is the best solution. Same for dbol it isn't an every 2 day drug, it is best when taken 3+ times a day in divided doses.
Another questions why test prop, dbol and Winstrol (winny)? WHat are your goals? If it is to get big and stay fairly lean drop the Winstrol (winny) and run fina through out. If it to cut up drop the dbol and run fina through out.
Last but not least. You have been training for a year, and haven't done any cycles. Why all three drugs? You would do great on a test only run or test/dbol or test/tren
However if you want to use numerous compounds lets plan them for your goals.
Modification for bulking:
Wk 1-4 Dbol 35mg ED (split doses)
Wk 1-8 Test prop 75mg ED (or 150m EOD if you must)
Wk 1-8 Tren ace 75mg EOD
Wk 9-10 40mg Nolva ED
Wk 11-12 20mg Nolva ED
Modified to cut:
Wk 1-8 Test prop 75mg ED (or 150m EOD if you must)
Wk 1-8 Tren ace 75mg EOD
Wk 4-8 Winstrol (winny) 50mg ED
Wk 9-10 40mg Nolva ED
Wk 11-12 20mg Nolva ED
If you want to use the 3 compounds you listed try this:
Wk 1-4 Dbol 35mg split into 4 doses
Wk 1-8 Test prop 75mg ED
Wk 5-8 Winstrol (winny) 50mg ED (maybe split this to two doses if you want)
Wk 9-10 40mg Nolva ED
Wk 11-12 20mg Nolva ED
PumpItUp
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my post cycle therapy (pct) is included in the cycle but idid not attach it with this file..
anyway thanks for your attention , but i got some questions
1.what fina,tren ace stand for , where are they in drug profiles?
2.I read alot that my basic and first cycle should be a test. ( any kind of test. ) ? what make you surprised about using it in my cycle ?
and my couch recommended this for me , becasue my goal is to get big and stay fairly lean as you said before
anyway thanks for your attention , but i got some questions
1.what fina,tren ace stand for , where are they in drug profiles?
2.I read alot that my basic and first cycle should be a test. ( any kind of test. ) ? what make you surprised about using it in my cycle ?
and my couch recommended this for me , becasue my goal is to get big and stay fairly lean as you said before
panteracfh
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don't do that cycle, its really bad...
just do a long acting test...enanthate or cypionate at 400-500mg a week for 10-12 weeks...then do post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after your last injection... just do the test...those cycles elijah wrote are good cycles, but not for a first cycle...they are more advanced...
just do a long acting test...enanthate or cypionate at 400-500mg a week for 10-12 weeks...then do post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after your last injection... just do the test...those cycles elijah wrote are good cycles, but not for a first cycle...they are more advanced...
elijah_123
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Yep I noted they are advanced and he should do test only. But I've found once someone thinks they need all those drugs it is hard to change their mind so I offered better advice than what he had.
Test is great for a first cycle, like I said in my post.
I'd say do a test prop at 75mg ED for 8 weeks and start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 days after the last inject. or test enan at 500mg EW (for 10-12 weeks) in two shots and maybe add dbol at 35mg for the first 4 weeks to get it going.
Ie
Wk 1-8.5 Test prop 75mg ED
Wk 9-10 Nolva 40mg ED
Wk 11-12 Nolva 20mg ED
This will treat you great! and it is a fast acting ester so it starts soon and clears soon if you don't respond well to test.
Or with a long ester
Wk 1-4 Dbol 35mg ED (split doses)
Wk 1-10 Test enan 500mg EW (in two shots per week)
Wk 12-13 Nolva 40mg ED
Wk 14-15 Nolva 20mg ED
This will be good for you also, but you BETTER have nolva on hand just in case gyno hits you.
I'd really suggest a 8 week cycle of test prop at 500mg a week. You'll love it and it won't be an over kill.
Tren Ace is in the profiles, look for tren or fina.
Test is great for a first cycle, like I said in my post.
I'd say do a test prop at 75mg ED for 8 weeks and start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 days after the last inject. or test enan at 500mg EW (for 10-12 weeks) in two shots and maybe add dbol at 35mg for the first 4 weeks to get it going.
Ie
Wk 1-8.5 Test prop 75mg ED
Wk 9-10 Nolva 40mg ED
Wk 11-12 Nolva 20mg ED
This will treat you great! and it is a fast acting ester so it starts soon and clears soon if you don't respond well to test.
Or with a long ester
Wk 1-4 Dbol 35mg ED (split doses)
Wk 1-10 Test enan 500mg EW (in two shots per week)
Wk 12-13 Nolva 40mg ED
Wk 14-15 Nolva 20mg ED
This will be good for you also, but you BETTER have nolva on hand just in case gyno hits you.
I'd really suggest a 8 week cycle of test prop at 500mg a week. You'll love it and it won't be an over kill.
Tren Ace is in the profiles, look for tren or fina.
panteracfh
Knows whats up
yeah... like the nolva post cycle therapy (pct), thats what i did and will do this time too... heard too many bad clomid stories
indrid_cold17
New member
hey guys...if i used test what sideeffects are probable to take place in my first cycle,,,and what is the safest test to use,,,besides is their any more safer cycle u know
elijah_123
New member
Sides from test are mainly bloat, gyno, hair loss, prostate enlargement and high blood pressure.
Most people just have to worry about the gyno. WHich is what the nolva will combat. Prop is better (IMO) because if you do develop gyno you can start nolva and either stop the test or reduce your dose and it is no longer in your system after 2 or 3 days. With a longer ester (enan, cyp) it'll still be in your system and causing problems for 2 weeks. Pluse using prop gets you used to injecting
hehehe
I'd say a safe and very effective cycle for you would be this:
Wk 1-8( or 10) Prop 75mg ED
THen 2 days after your last shot of prop run Nolva at 40mg ED for 2 weeks then 20mg ED for another 2 weeks.
Eat at least 500-1000 calories over your BMR and train hard, try the 5x5 method and you'll grow like mad.
Most people just have to worry about the gyno. WHich is what the nolva will combat. Prop is better (IMO) because if you do develop gyno you can start nolva and either stop the test or reduce your dose and it is no longer in your system after 2 or 3 days. With a longer ester (enan, cyp) it'll still be in your system and causing problems for 2 weeks. Pluse using prop gets you used to injecting
heheheI'd say a safe and very effective cycle for you would be this:
Wk 1-8( or 10) Prop 75mg ED
THen 2 days after your last shot of prop run Nolva at 40mg ED for 2 weeks then 20mg ED for another 2 weeks.
Eat at least 500-1000 calories over your BMR and train hard, try the 5x5 method and you'll grow like mad.
