My first cycle log

[Claret-n-Blue]

Officially came over to the "darkside"

My first cyle is going to be a 12 week cycle consisting of Test Cyp (weeks 1-12, 400mg), Deca (weeks 1-5, 400mg), and Tren (weeks 5-10, 300mg). HCG. Nolva for PCT.

I have good support from my trainer (a member on this board) for any questions or issues that may come up.

My daily macro nutrient breakdown will be 400g of protein, 400g of carbs, about 75g of fat. My goal is to focus on mostly on increasing size and strength, while slighly decreasing bodyfat.

Current Stats:
Age: 24
Years Lifting: 4 (though the first two were focused on loosing a lot of weight)
Weight: 242
BF%: 15.4

Two pins in and feeling great, though my week has been interupted by the birth of my son! Getting back on track though.

Looking forward to the journey!

 

[SouthernCross28]

You don't run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct), use it at 2 x 250iu PW for duration of cycle.

Also make sure your Test shots are twice per week not once, eg- 250mg Mon and Thu.

Make sure you get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) just in case, i use Arimidex at 0.25 EOD and works well for me. Some say Aromisan or Letro but Letro is overkill IMO.

How tall are you? and how many Cals will you be eating ED?

 

[Claret-n-Blue]

a few additions/clarifications to my previous post.

Height: 6 ft
target calories: 3800-4000 ED

Also have arimidex for my AI.

Pins are every sunday and wednesday.

Have only had two workouts this week hitting chest and back. tomorrow will be legs!

 

[RJ]

Make sure you get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) just in case, i use Arimidex at 0.25 EOD and works well for me. Some say Aromisan or Letro but Letro is overkill IMO.

I disagree with this line of thought. Yes its good to have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand, but taking it just to take it is not a good idea IMO. He may not have any estro related issues. And decreasing estro too much can limit gains IMO.

 

[SouthernCross28]

Totally agree RJ, It's personal preference to take it or not, just throwin in what works for me, lol.

 

[RJ]

Totally agree RJ, It's personal preference to take it or not, just throwin in what works for me, lol.

its ok, that was an inappropriate response from me as I preach all the time about suggestions not advice. lol

 

[jjtattoofreak]

First cycle with tren ??? wow

 

[Claret-n-Blue]

First cycle with tren ??? wow

I know most advocate a first cycle being test only, but I'm trusting my trainer on this one. only 5 weeks on it, so not all cycle.

Hit chest again today (pushing legs off until tomorrow) since my monday chest workout was interupted by my wife's water breaking.

Broke my bench record, though I know this was mental and not the gear, though my recovery time seems to be speeding up a tad.

Next pin is on Sunday!

 

[jjtattoofreak]

Well I guess as long as you got someone helping you through it , ya got some balls though... keep us up to date ..... good luck

 

[bigcac13]

aren't you not supposed to take Nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) when you have ran Deca or is it Clomid?



Congrats on having a son btw!

 

[jjtattoofreak]

no NOLVA with DECA clomid is good..

 

[jjtattoofreak]

so yes to the OP of this thread you are gonna have to run clomid post cycle therapy (pct) not nolva...

 

[bigcac13]

thanks bro, that's what i thought just trying to look out for our fellow members

 

[jjtattoofreak]

But due to the short stint of deca I amy be wrong on this, I know I have always read nolva and deca are a NO NO .. so anyone else got anything I can learn today on this , am I correct or just simply retarded .lol

 

[bigcac13]

I was just looking over this cycle again and saw it was only Deca weeks 1-5 imo the Deca won't even rly be kicking in good by then i'd drop the Tren (since it is a first cycle) and run the Deca longer and get some Clomid for pct

 

[Claret-n-Blue]

I was just looking over this cycle again and saw it was only Deca weeks 1-5 imo the Deca won't even rly be kicking in good by then i'd drop the Tren (since it is a first cycle) and run the Deca longer and get some Clomid for pct

The original cycle was going to be deca for weeks 1-10, but we decided to change it up a bit. My understanding is that Deca really doesn't kick in until much later, so I will have to get clarification on this. I will also ask about the clomid deal. I know he isn't a fan based on his experience, but I am open to suggestions.

The Tren is Tren E, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference other than requiring less frequent pins. Also only 150 mg twice a week.

This is my first cycle, but I have done pro-hormones/pro-steroids in the past, so not sure if that factors in either.

Thanks for all the input so far! keep it coming because it only educates me more!

 

[jjtattoofreak]

first time I would use tren A in case you get sides you can kick it out sooner other wise you could be stuck with it for a bit on tren E. with tren A you have more frequent injections that is the only draw back .. I am begining to question some shit with this cycle, you say you have a trainner , but I am unsure who on a first cycle would recomend tren let alone a long ester tren E on the first go around just do tho the fact of getting any sides ???

 

[Claret-n-Blue]

good points... I will for sure discuss with my trainer and go from there, I am early in the cycle, so staying on deca wouldn't be a big deal. Already looking into clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) instead of nolva. Will of course keep everyone posted as to how everything turns out

 

[Claret-n-Blue]

3rd pin today. Tried my right quad, which went very well. Did some light cardio afterwards.

Overall I feel pretty good, but I know it is way too early for anything to really kick in. My motivation in the gym has been very good, resulting in some new pr.

 

[bigcac13]

What are you going to end up doing?

Talking about the Deca and Tren