My first cycle , need STRONG advice here

[BulkyArms]

So , guys im 5.8 and 180 lbs and 11% bf . This is my first cycle and i need some advice , my first shot was yesterday and fuck prop really hits hard... the pain is monstruous.

My cycle


1-6 - 150 mg - EOD
1-6 - Winstrol - eod

PCT

Dufine (Citrato de Clomifeno)
Days 1-14: Clomifeno @ 100mg ed
Days 14-28: Clomifeno @ 50mg ed

Nolvadex (Tamoxifeno)
days 1-14: tamoxifeno a 40mg ed
Days 15-28: tamoxifeno a 20mg ed




I know this cycle is hard to aromatize , but i REALLY don't want to get gyno although i want maximize my results... Do u think i need 10 MG Nolvadex when im cycle?

I wait for your aswers!

 

[BulkyArms]

bump , help plz

 

[StoneColdNTO]

My cycle


1-6 - 150 mg - EOD
1-6 - Winstrol - eod

150 mg of WHAT ???

Just Winstrol ?

If not, how much Winstrol (winny) ?

 

[BulkyArms]

sorry forget to put it , its 150 mg prop. testosterone and 50 mg eod winstrol.

what do you say?
thanks

 

[pipes29]

Well you shouldn't need the Nolva on cycle. Unless you are really sensetive to estrogen. That is why you should just run the test this cycle and see how you react to it. Then add something like Winstrol (winny) in later cycles. This way if you do get sides you have a better idea of which drugs are causing it. Also 6 weeks is hardly a warm-up. I would run just the test at least 10-12 weeks.
PCT looks pretty good Clomid at 100 mg is a bit high the first 2 weeks. Some people get some pretty bad emotional sides at that dose too.

 

[GearForLife]

hey brotha. def run the winstral with the Test. test only cycles suck IMO. my first cycle was test, deca and dbol... 28 pounds of amazing... doses are good. good luck

 

[pipes29]

hey brotha. def run the winstral with the Test. test only cycles suck IMO. my first cycle was test, deca and dbol... 28 pounds of amazing... doses are good. good luck

Test only cycles don't suck and I think over 90% of experienced users would agree. Especially for your first cycle.

 

[TheMilkMan]

hey brotha. def run the winstral with the Test. test only cycles suck IMO. my first cycle was test, deca and dbol... 28 pounds of amazing... doses are good. good luck

You're showing your true colors now...

First you come on this board and tell us that Tren Xtreme is a great product and just as good as the real thing, and now you're saying Test only cycles suck. Interesting. IMO you should stop giving advice and stick to reading a bit more.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

You're showing your true colors now...

First you come on this board and tell us that Tren Xtreme is a great product and just as good as the real thing, and now you're saying Test only cycles suck. Interesting. IMO you should stop giving advice and stick to reading a bit more.

Totally agree with you. This GearForLife kids doesn't know much and gives very bad, misleading and dangerous advice.

He really needs to be quiet for a while.

 

[GearForLife]

man back in the day on gear boards it was "a good first cycle was test, deca, dbol" Seriously whats the problem with running more than just Test on your first cycle??? winys so short acting it can be stopped soon if any problems arise, correct. I dont believe people are in serious risk from running test, Winstrol (winny) for first cycle,thousands of guys stack 1st cycles and they are just fine right?. its no more dangerous to run (test, winny) on your first cycle than it would be on your 2nd 3rd or 4th.... the risk is the same just the user lacking experience as to what diff gear dose to them. and your right.. test only cycles dont suck, iv ran one, my bad, i just dont like to see people limiting themselves by only running test on a cycle. and perhaps I do live a more dangerous life style and maybe I need to re-evaluate things more in my life. im only trying to help I think you all know that... and I dont give dangerous advice I dont think... Im mean on this guys next cycle you will all be recommending a similiar test, deca, dbol, stack something with test cycle anyways right? Please let me know what im saying is misleading and dangerous? iv been in the steroid game for years and just cause I disagree with the general consensus of this board doesn't mean im in the wrong.. and tren extreme is still the shit! why dont you guys give it a shot! dont take my word for it, do some research on it and read some discussion boards about guys who have used it.

 

[BulkyArms]

Well you shouldn't need the Nolva on cycle. Unless you are really sensetive to estrogen. That is why you should just run the test this cycle and see how you react to it. Then add something like Winstrol (winny) in later cycles. This way if you do get sides you have a better idea of which drugs are causing it. Also 6 weeks is hardly a warm-up. I would run just the test at least 10-12 weeks.
post cycle therapy (pct) looks pretty good Clomid at 100 mg is a bit high the first 2 weeks. Some people get some pretty bad emotional sides at that dose too.

Thanks guys for the aswers. I will do this stack because i already started , today will be my 2nd injection and the first still hurts a lot ( going to train today , dont know how ) and im really forcing myself to eat because i don't have appetite.

So my cycle is , Prop test 150mg - eod and winstrol 50 mg -eod and i might don't need nolvadex during the cycle. cool.

for post cycle therapy (pct) what doses recomend of clomid ? because i am some emotional problems before and don't want to get into it again!

thanks bro's

 

[dialtone]

if you are experiencing that much pain try refiltering the oil, cutting it with sterile oil, or getting a heating pad.

 

[GearForLife]

Thanks guys for the aswers. I will do this stack because i already started , today will be my 2nd injection and the first still hurts a lot ( going to train today , dont know how ) and im really forcing myself to eat because i don't have appetite.

So my cycle is , Prop test 150mg - eod and winstrol 50 mg -eod and i might don't need nolvadex during the cycle. cool.

for post cycle therapy (pct) what doses recomend of clomid ? because i am some emotional problems before and don't want to get into it again!

thanks bro's

Hey bro, Your gonna be glad you ran the winstral with the test when all is said and done and your cycle is over. Your gonna be just fine. You should put on an additional 2 to 4 pounds of muscle mass by adding the winstral, plus your gonna love the rock hard, cut feeling Winstrol (winny) will give ya and youll look better this summer ;-)

The clomid should be ran at 100mg per day for the first 2 weeks, then 50mg per day for another 2 weeks... I believe that is the latest protocal. also, if you want to maintain more of your muscle gains you can decrease cortisol by taking clen or ephedra with your clomid, this will stop cortisal from binding to muscle receptors so you can remain in a more anabolic state. I would also recommend 40 to 60mg a vandal sulfate per day with chromium to help with insulin sensitivity and make you even harder! they are dirt cheap supps that can help and actually work. good luck with your cycle and be sure to post ur results! Train harder, eat well, drinks lots of water, get plenty of rest and please dont drink alcoholic as it will really hurt your muscle gains! take it from me and learn from my mistakes. im not perfect but i learn and keep moving forward...

 

[BulkyArms]

Hey bro, Your gonna be glad you ran the winstral with the test when all is said and done and your cycle is over. Your gonna be just fine. You should put on an additional 2 to 4 pounds of muscle mass by adding the winstral, plus your gonna love the rock hard, cut feeling Winstrol (winny) will give ya and youll look better this summer ;-)

The clomid should be ran at 100mg per day for the first 2 weeks, then 50mg per day for another 2 weeks... I believe that is the latest protocal. also, if you want to maintain more of your muscle gains you can decrease cortisol by taking clen or ephedra with your clomid, this will stop cortisal from binding to muscle receptors so you can remain in a more anabolic state. I would also recommend 40 to 60mg a vandal sulfate per day with chromium to help with insulin sensitivity and make you even harder! they are dirt cheap supps that can help and actually work. good luck with your cycle and be sure to post ur results! Train harder, eat well, drinks lots of water, get plenty of rest and please dont drink alcoholic as it will really hurt your muscle gains! take it from me and learn from my mistakes. im not perfect but i learn and keep moving forward...

HEY m8 thanks for ur reply , ofc i won't drink alcohol i am not here to play with my health and i really want maximum gains.... Today will be second shot and i already feel my muscles harder , its just nice.. you sure i will post my pics before and after here.. cumps