My first cycle

[CIII]

Hey guys i am just getting into this so any help i get will be much app. what i have are tabs

today i started with thermo and will be useing it for the next six weeks

i am waiting on winni to still come in but once i get it i will use for six weeks as well

and also just ordered the gw

my work out plan is the same as my buddies and some of you might already be following him (pikiki) we are deployed together.

currently i am at 217 and about 25% bf
5'9.5''

 

[pikiki]

Welcome here Sarge!!!

 

[CIII]

thanks buddy

 

[Gfunky]

Good luck just eat right workout like a i mad man eat your steroids and a good solid PCT! Also if you are running orals it is always smart to get some type of liver cleanse and run it with the winny.

 

[4l60e]

Welcome

 

[CIII]

thanks for the help

with the winni that i am waitin on, i also have clomid and bio detox comin with it

 

[pikiki]

We need to sit down an order what you need bro,lol

 

[CIII]

Udate....... got my gear today so hopein to see some big improvments in the few week, will post last weeks workout and new pic, let know what you guys think of my workout

 

[Sergej]

Oral only is not good for anybody, also winni will do nothing for you, you should drop it. It is for people with low bf, for contest prep. With your bf you should get your diet in check first... Do some more research..
Not trying to be rude or bash just want to help..

 

[prophet]

yeah you definitely need to drop the idea of a Winstrol (winny) only cycle. just not good for you and not what you specifically need.

when you do run your first cycle, you'll want to do it simple, with testosterone injections.

 

[CIII]

Hey guys thanks for the info, i have about the best diet i can right now, im deployed in afghanistan. I am also takin thermo blend with the winni, im with pikiki if any of you are followin him. Doing the same workout as him, BF IS DOWN 1% AT 25% LOST1%IN A WEEK

 

[crazyfmike]

Oral only is not good for anybody, also winni will do nothing for you, you should drop it. It is for people with low bf, for contest prep. With your bf you should get your diet in check first... Do some more research..
Not trying to be rude or bash just want to help..

This reply and "prophet's" are spot-ON. Your buddy is way ahead of you, you need to start at the beginning following a beginner program and lose some BF with cutting dirty eating habits not talking harsh shit like winny.

 

[CIII]

Thanks for the info man, beleive me when i say i have my diet the best i can since im deployed, i dont eat any thing fried no sweets no soda, pikiki has me eating right

 

[CIII]

Lost six lbs over the past week and ahalf

 

[prophet]

just so you know, Winstrol (winny) does not do a single thing for fatloss. the thermo, you can keep taking that if you want, but please, please, PLEASE, drop the winny.

 

[CIII]

Can you tell me whats so bad or wrong with the winni

 

[prophet]

sure. but can you first tell me what's so good about it? because i'm willing to bet your perceptions are actually misconceptions. this is one of the most misrepresented drugs available. seriously, if you aren't single digit body fat getting ready for a competition, the chances you will ever even have a clue what 'benefits' you got out of it are extremely slim.

you're losing weight.... that has ZERO to do with the Winstrol (winny). that has everything to do with eating and training, and your thermo is probably helping. Winstrol (winny) does not help your body burn fat. but it can still suppress your natural testosterone production. testosterone is the hormone that makes the manly parts of you manly..... you're telling your body to stop making that right now, without replenishing it artificially through exogenous test.

winny will dry you out, which won't mean anything to you because of your current bf%. it will also dry out joints, etc. making it harder to handle heavier weight, and you should be working out to get stronger. it is also about the harshest oral steroid on your internal organs, it is horrible for your cholesterol...... i mean the list goes on.... all for benefits that you do not need right now, will not benefit from, and probably won't even ever feel or see.

BUT it will give you the placebo affect, and you will attribute positives brought about by the other things you're doing to the Winstrol (winny), and thus in your mind you will have "great results" from the Winstrol (winny) only cycle and will probably ignore the negatives and somehow justify them to yourself as "worth it".

these are some things that are wrong with the winny.

now can you tell me everything you know about it, and why you want to take it so badly, and what you think it will do for you?

i'm not trying to be a dick here, i'm genuinely just trying to help you realize that you're not going about this the right way.

these aren't some chewable multi-vitamins we're talking about here, this stuff can seriously mess you up if you don't know what you're doing and are not careful. you're being reckless with your body right now, and for what?

 

[mdella89]

sure. but can you first tell me what's so good about it? because i'm willing to bet your perceptions are actually misconceptions. this is one of the most misrepresented drugs available. seriously, if you aren't single digit body fat getting ready for a competition, the chances you will ever even have a clue what 'benefits' you got out of it are extremely slim.

you're losing weight.... that has ZERO to do with the Winstrol (winny). that has everything to do with eating and training, and your thermo is probably helping. Winstrol (winny) does not help your body burn fat. but it can still suppress your natural testosterone production. testosterone is the hormone that makes the manly parts of you manly..... you're telling your body to stop making that right now, without replenishing it artificially through exogenous test.

winny will dry you out, which won't mean anything to you because of your current bf%. it will also dry out joints, etc. making it harder to handle heavier weight, and you should be working out to get stronger. it is also about the harshest oral steroid on your internal organs, it is horrible for your cholesterol...... i mean the list goes on.... all for benefits that you do not need right now, will not benefit from, and probably won't even ever feel or see.

BUT it will give you the placebo affect, and you will attribute positives brought about by the other things you're doing to the Winstrol (winny), and thus in your mind you will have "great results" from the Winstrol (winny) only cycle and will probably ignore the negatives and somehow justify them to yourself as "worth it".

these are some things that are wrong with the winny.

now can you tell me everything you know about it, and why you want to take it so badly, and what you think it will do for you?

i'm not trying to be a dick here, i'm genuinely just trying to help you realize that you're not going about this the right way.

these aren't some chewable multi-vitamins we're talking about here, this stuff can seriously mess you up if you don't know what you're doing and are not careful. you're being reckless with your body right now, and for what?

1000% agree with this. Winstrol (winny) is litterally the most dog shit thing going around. contest prep should be the only reason people run that compound.

if your running a cycle stick with some test prop or test E, will help you put on some size or hold it while you BF comes down. prophet is correct, just get rid of it its going to do only negative things to you not positive. all your results are from your diet and training thus far and thats to be applauded, dont give any credit to the Winstrol (winny) its not doing anything

 

[CIII]

just started gw and so far so good, seeing some good strength gains

 

[jumpinjeff]

what's gw? those guys are right about the winnie by the way, fucking stupid drug.