My nipple hurts could it be gyno?

[White Rabbit]

Hi.

I'm a male, 29yo, 91kg, bf 12%. I have been training solid for 14 months making steady gains, prior to that, on and off for ever.

I had just started to run a cycle of sust 1 mil/w and enanthate 1 mil/w for 10 weeks, sust on day 1 and enanthate on day 4 of each week, and then introduce at week 5 2 mil of winstrol on both of the days for the final 6 weeks. During the second week, I injured my shoulder, so that has been put on hold.

I have a few questions for someone with a little more experience than I. My right nipple got really sore for about a week 6 days after my last shot. What would this be from? There was no visable swelling, just pain, and it was only in one side?

My other question is what would be suitable post cycle therapy (pct) for a cycle like this?

Thanks a heap.

white rabbit

 

[tee]

First off, your cycle doses are a little off if Im understanding it right. For sustanon 250 to be effective, you need to take it at least two times a week. To utilize all of its esters, you should take an amp every other day. Also, why are you taking it with enanthate? Why not take one or the other throughout your cycle?

As far as your right nipple getting sore, that is a sign of gyno. Just because it doesnt swell doesnt mean that your not getting it. In some people, there is no pain or swelling. All of a sudden, you have a hard lump that built up. It can occur in one nipple, or both nipples. Are you taking any Nolvadex, or any other anti-E throughout the cycle?

 

[ruzzi360]

yeh why the 2 types of test...either one would b sufficient...and my nipple started hurting alil b4 i showed signs of gyno so i would say hop on the nolvadex at 60mg...that reduced mine significantly...and if ur that prone i would stay on nolva for the whole cycle and pct...

 

[White Rabbit]

There is a small lump behind the nipple. If I get on Nolvadex, will that reduce? I was not taking any anti e's at all.

Any advice on PCT?

Thanks.

white rabbit

 

[The Cat]

not nolva letrozole it will stop the test from coverting to estrogen .....Save the Tamoxifen ( nolva ) for your post cycle therapy (pct) where it belongs

 

[GymLift]

First off, your cycle doses are a little off if Im understanding it right. For sustanon 250 to be effective, you need to take it at least two times a week. To utilize all of its esters, you should take an amp every other day. Also, why are you taking it with enanthate? Why not take one or the other throughout your cycle?

As far as your right nipple getting sore, that is a sign of gyno. Just because it doesnt swell doesnt mean that your not getting it. In some people, there is no pain or swelling. All of a sudden, you have a hard lump that built up. It can occur in one nipple, or both nipples. Are you taking any Nolvadex, or any other anti-E throughout the cycle?

Good advice.

Personally, I recommend jumping on the Nolva. I'm not saying that letro isn't effective, and it may in fact be a good idea to start up on some letro, but Nolva is well established to help with very-recent gyno from estrogens.

 

[latitude]

How long after the nipple starts to hurt do you see the gyno start to kick in. Is there a window of time from the start of pain to stop any issues.

 

[GymLift]

How long after the nipple starts to hurt do you see the gyno start to kick in?

Individual results will vary. Who's to say the gyno will kick in for certain? It might not, with or without the Nolva.

If the gyno hasn't kicked in at all yet, then starting on a low dose of letro is probably all you need. But, if you want to error on the side of caution, start up on some Nolva.

 

[dznutzxxx]

Unless of course it's possibly a progesterone/prolactin issue.

I read an overgeneralized post once, saying to take nolva immediately following signs of gyno, period, but I've read other posts saying if it's a progesterone based gyno, then the nolva can make it worse.


Anyone know how to ascertain your type of gyno, before making it worse with nolva?

 

[Ythrashin]

Usually if its progesterone induced gyno its actually Prolactin causing it.

Progestins like Deca and Tren raise prolactin levels... Using cabaser or prami will cure this problem.

Some say the progestins can contribute to glandular gyno directly. Its believed that progestins need elevated estrogen levels to cause gyno. A small number of peeps theorize that just some estrogen present if progestin levels are high enough will cause gyno.

But if progestin levels are that high you probably would have high prolactin levels....

So if you are taking either Tren or Deca use a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to control estrogen. Nolva will increase progestin sides...
If you experience prolactin gyno use cabaser or prami.

If that doesnt work grab some Letro and eliminate most of your estrogen for a short period of time making it so that progestins cant cause the gyno with no estrogen present.

 

[Teutonic]

Everyone s differant..that s why they recommend one compound..(initially)one counter measure and so on..
IF your gyno is reversable with meds..and it may be...it ll be weeks or months probably...depends on severity..genetics...etc.
These dudes are great ..they ll walk you through.
Good luck

 

[cyto33]

this dude it like 33 now. but this is good info.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

wassup DEX! where you been? they catch you on ology at work or something!

 

[Ythrashin]

Simply if you are using Tren or Deca dont use Nolva.

Use a combo of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and Dopamine Agonist to prevent both types of gyno.

 

[cyto33]

wassup DEX! where you been? they catch you on ology at work or something!

no man not busted yet. they sent me to a job in NH for a bit. then i've been doing RND for a while here.
my boss is cool he's seen me here but its all good with him just not some of the others.