My Testosterone Propionate cycle

REACH

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Hey guys,

straight to the point.
I've been working out since I was 12. At 13 I was the strongest cat in my school, benching over 200lbs, we have kilograms here so I donät know the exact poundage. I looked like shit back then. I was out of shape. Tall and heavy. At 14 I was looking better. I worked physical jobs fro 12 to 16 every summer, and did not go to the gym in the summer. Summers were time off for me. Summers age 16 and 17 I was a bartender, believe it or not. I look old for my age. Old and good.

So it's my sixth year working out. I'm 6'3" and around 200lbs, with close to 17" arms, 53" shoulder, 31" waist.

I don't do regular squats, deadlifts and bench presses. I bench Gironda style and do Hack squats and Romanian deadlifts respectively. I also do not try and find out 1 rep maxes. I care too much for my joints to do so. I do thick bar training as well.

I train for looks and functional strength, so I have soe bodyweight exercises fro Mark Lauren as well in my workouts. Love them.

Now you know the things you have to know about me. I do not know my bodyfat percentage, and I don't care much for it. My abs are showing all year round. I also incorporate short term intermittent fasting in my life. Twice a weeks does the trick.

I want to use test prop. Help me guys, you know better, as I am all natural and tired of it. 8 weeks or 12 weeks. PCT or not, they didn't have PCT back in the heyday and I am not prone to gyno, seeing no lumps or things as such when puberty struck.
Will Clomid be needed? Anything else?

I do not feel comfortable typing in english just yet, try to work with me.

Thank you for your understanding.

Oh, I've done bodybuilding as well, I got trophies and everything. Strongman events - been there, done that, placed good.
EDIT: not 35" shoulders, but 53"
 
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It is me in the avatar from a contest last year, where I'd just turned 17. I placed second.
 
It isn't what you want to hear, but at 18, AAS should be out of the question. Why would you want to disrupt a huge, natural and legal "cycle"? You need food, a good diet plan, and about six years.

By the way, your english is excellent. And keep up the excellent work!

Poly
 
It isn't what you want to hear, but at 18, AAS should be out of the question. Why would you want to disrupt a huge, natural and legal "cycle"? You need food, a good diet plan, and about six years.

By the way, your english is excellent. And keep up the excellent work!

Poly

Thank you for the quick response.
The thing is, my ship is headed towards sports entertainment. I thank the Universe for every day it has given me, I do not take my breaths for granted. I am moving abroad in July. Will be trotting the globe, so to speak. My goal isn't to get huge or anything. I want some more size to my shoulders, arms and quads. Everything else I can live with. Looks are important in my line of work. I am not the type to get addicted. Since i started bartending I was introduced to the finer things in life, such as whiskey and fine, intelligent, gorgeous women. If anything, sex is my drug of choice, altough I will not say no to a good two fingers of scotch. I have my own mini bar at home. Again, I am not the one to get addicted. Smoking, tried and don't like.

I want an edge. I might be the stereotypical young man in this sense, but I want it NOW. I will not go overboard.

Will it really be that bad? I want a family, so the red light would be me not being able to have children because of my youth stupidity.

Other than that, I would be able to live with it. I don't have baldness running in my family, my mother's brother is goin bald, so is his son, but they're the only ones. I got my gene pool mostly fro my father's side.

I want a down to earth honest answer.

I want the but what if's, the everything. But I'd also like to see some, hey, if you're going to do this, then here's what you should be doing.

Thank you yet again.
 
what i will suggest you do right now is this.

study and know gear inside and out. you want to make it your life then read and study. ask questions to further the research just not how to build a cycle but how to recovery for each and every diffrent compound out there.
when you know this stuff you will put a cycle together and be ready to cycle even if your still young.

if we hand feed the info to you what will you learn ? nothing. then your stuck. learn for yourself and your further ahead then alot of pros.
 
It isn't as though a cycle at 18 will cause you to explode into a fine, bloody red mist. To be honest, you would probably turn out just fine. The problem is, at 18, your body is still growing on a grand scale. With your obvious hard work and diet alone, your shoulders, legs and arms will get bigger. Taking AAS at this point would be a bit like filling in a natural water source to make room for a city water pipe! Don't short circuit what is already happening naturally!

Poly
 
One thing has been bothering me for quite some time.
Will the young age I started training benefit me or vice versa?

How long until I reach my genetic potential? I've read anywhere from 5-9 years.
How did you guys grow into your early 20s, faster than before?

I was training on little natural testosterone most of my years, will I see some kind of a growth spurt or am I pretty much done?
 
Your growth hormone levels are still rising they dont.plateu till 23 to 25 then they steadily fall. I think youve done great already dont blast off too soon with the aas in my opinion youd be wasting alot of natural potential but you will do what you want to do anyway just straight up trying to help you out brother.
 
At your age, the only thing you should be doing is eating, resting, and training really hard. I think you have a ton of potential and you need to stay natural for at least another 5 years... If you have made such great gains until now, imagine what you will be able to do if you really dial in your training and diet.

Additionally, if you are not Squatting, Benching, and Deadlifting regularly you are cheating yourself. Anyone who tells you those three lifts are going to ruin your joints, doesn't know how to perform the lifts correctly. If you learn how to do the big three lifts and add them into your training regime, you are going to be a beast before you know it.
 
At your age, the only thing you should be doing is eating, resting, and training really hard. I think you have a ton of potential and you need to stay natural for at least another 5 years... If you have made such great gains until now, imagine what you will be able to do if you really dial in your training and diet.

Additionally, if you are not Squatting, Benching, and Deadlifting regularly you are cheating yourself. Anyone who tells you those three lifts are going to ruin your joints, doesn't know how to perform the lifts correctly. If you learn how to do the big three lifts and add them into your training regime, you are going to be a beast before you know it.

I do them all in a different way, occasionally doing the traditional way as well. The reason for it is my height and the fact I tore both of my erector spinae muscles when I was 12.

But thanks man. I appreciate it. I work hard in the gym, I use free weights exclusively.

The fact that competition is tough in my line of work is forcing me to do something. Right now I'm just working on getting more lean, to achieve a bigger look through that.
We will see what happens.
 
You look pretty lean. Why not bulk up naturally a little. 200 lb at 6'3 is pretty skinny. Most of us have to gain a little fat to put on any serious muscle mass.
 
I do them all in a different way, occasionally doing the traditional way as well. The reason for it is my height and the fact I tore both of my erector spinae muscles when I was 12.

But thanks man. I appreciate it. I work hard in the gym, I use free weights exclusively.

The fact that competition is tough in my line of work is forcing me to do something. Right now I'm just working on getting more lean, to achieve a bigger look through that.
We will see what happens.

Dont sell youself short bro. . . WAIT, until 25-27 y.o range. . Itll be tough for you, but with your genitics, id say theres no telling how much muscle/even height u could achieve before cycling
 
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