Natural with awesome genetics vs bad genetics but able to use test e

[goingtowin]

Another fun question/debate for the day that I'm curious about as well!

Keep in mind BOTH have superb diet and training!

In corner 1 we have a 6 foot natural with awesome genetics! (not MR Olympia genetics but still great enough to make 95% of men extremely jealous)

In corner 2 we have a 6 foot male with very bad genetics and builds muscle/strength extremely slowly BUT is able to use gear he is spot on in the kitchen and in training but his genetics are something to make your knees give out! (average cycles of 500mg test e and cruises at 200mg between cycles)


Who do you think is going to come out on top in the end? (BE HONEST)

Just judging general physique and strength at the end of a year or two.

 

[Mprtz]

With general physique as the criterion? I think the genetically gifted guy is always going to look better though he may not ultimately be able to build as much muscle as the ungifted juicer.

Clavicle width, depth of ribcage, size of pelvis, proportion of limbs, etc. These things will produce a more aesthetic physique in the gifted guy.

 

[goingtowin]

With general physique as the criterion? I think the genetically gifted guy is always going to look better though he may not ultimately be able to build as much muscle as the ungifted juicer.

Clavicle width, depth of ribcage, size of pelvis, proportion of limbs, etc. These things will produce a more aesthetic physique in the gifted guy.

I was thinking this as well haha. But as far as actually putting on muscle/size I feel like the bad genetics male with gear would come on top. When it comes to actually competing though the natural would probably look better to the eye.

 

[luckypaul]

Another fun question/debate for the day that I'm curious about as well!

Keep in mind BOTH have superb diet and training!

In corner 1 we have a 6 foot natural with awesome genetics! (not MR Olympia genetics but still great enough to make 95% of men extremely jealous)

In corner 2 we have a 6 foot male with very bad genetics and builds muscle/strength extremely slowly BUT is able to use gear he is spot on in the kitchen and in training but his genetics are something to make your knees give out! (average cycles of 500mg test e and cruises at 200mg between cycles)


Who do you think is going to come out on top in the end? (BE HONEST)

Just judging general physique and strength at the end of a year or two.

I think corner one gets the girl, I mean the trophy. Now if corner one ran a bulk cycle first, test deca and dbol, followed by a cut for 4 weeks, he may have a chance. What it boils down to though as far as who gets the girl is the size of his bank account.

 

[goingtowin]

It's crazy how powerful of a hormone testosterone is.

 

[halfwit]

Trick question. The winner is clearly the guy with superior genetics and cycles AAS.



Sorry, there are way too many variables within the domain of genetics to give a meaningful answer. Truthfully, it always comes down to who wants it more - unless we're talking a 4' gimp with one leg longer than the other, and his rival is a 6' true mesomorph with a myostatin deficiency.

Of course, if the 4' gimp just happens to be a billionaire, Paul has quite the point.

 

[goingtowin]

Hey halfwit see my new thread! Maybe you have the answer to what I just asked!

 

[halfwit]

Hey halfwit see my new thread! Maybe you have the answer to what I just asked!

Oh, I replied - but I don't think you'll like my answer.

 

[Teutonic]

Another variable unless we re talking purely academically is work ethic. If both are equally driven......gear wins in the build muscle dept I m h o, but over time genetics take the field and sweep all aside over a lifetime.

If I were to drop aas and keep training w light weight s I d rip...and be a "Fight Club" looking gay porno star look sporting 175-185 ish kind of guy.

 

[Fred87]

I have some of the shittiest genetics EVER for bodybuilding while my bro has one of the best I have ever seen in the real world.
He hasnt touched a weight once in his life, never checked his diet just eats whatever the fuck he wants when he wants, never diets, trains endurance and military bodyweight with no focus whatsoever on muscle building or aesthetics, fucked up sleep pattern and shitty job.
Ive been lifting for ages, train like a motherfucker, recover well, check my nutrition and even ran a very small cycle once, I still dont look anything close to him.
Yes surely I could outsize him with the drugs, but I dont think I will ever look better.
There was a time when he trained in some special army force and he came back home looking like a fucking super hero goddamn I will never look like that even if I do Tren ahaha
You cant change your bone structure and your muscle bellies, yes you can look 10 thousands time better than you did as a natural, but it will be hard to look better than a gifted motherfucker if mother nature hates you and gave you some bullshit DNA ahaha