Need advice for my Winny & Anavar Oral cycle, cutting stack

[dtroy]

hey, guys. I hope this in the right section to post.

Im new to everthing and just got my hands on some Winstrol (winny) and var(100 x 10mg pills of each) to do a 10 week cycle. I'm 21 about 5'10 and weigh around 225lbs with 14.5% body fat and trying to shed down for football. I was told to take 30mg ed(3 10mg pills) of winny(stanozolol) in the morning and then 20mg's ed anavar in the afternoon for 10 weeks. I got lots of milktthistle to help protect my liver 1000mgs ed. I was just wondering if that seems about right or i need to change to dosage. Im not need to gain any more muscle. I dont have access to any test. I've read alot of people have good results with winny/var cycles. I only plan on doing 1 oral only cycle like this, then I've work to find something i can inject. alot of people say you should take test with it but im not really leaning that way, plus i cant get any. really just doing it to help cutt wieght. i already know, no alcohol***8230;ect.
my only other option would be 20mg's Winstrol (winny) and 40mgs Anavar (var) or just var;maybe a higher dosage of it, if anyone has suggestions. if i was to add test, whats the most mild cause i dont want any more mass.

thanks in advance

 

[vladiT]

21! you really dont need anything, your a fighting machine right now, but you obviously have your mind made up here soooo,

TEST IS BEST, and shitttt thats two orals, going to be hard on your liver bro especially for 10 weeks.

Many bros will direct you to the orals only thread on here, its not a good idea, your natty test levels are going to crash, that being said

if your looking for test recomendation, i highly recommend test e or cyp 200-500mg a weak, if its about the fear of needles get over it! you want to play you should do it right, and pinning is easy , drop the Winstrol (winny), its not going to cut your fat! Anavar (var) however has been proven to cut body fat.

also if you decide to run these two, best to make sure your drinking at least 450oz of water a day! seriously, and no alcohol at all!

 

[dtroy]

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[juandohh]

21! you really dont need anything, your a fighting machine right now, but you obviously have your mind made up here soooo,

TEST IS BEST, and shitttt thats two orals, going to be hard on your liver bro especially for 10 weeks.

Many bros will direct you to the orals only thread on here, its not a good idea, your natty test levels are going to crash, that being said

if your looking for test recomendation, i highly recommend test e or cyp 200-500mg a weak, if its about the fear of needles get over it! you want to play you should do it right, and pinning is easy , drop the Winstrol (winny), its not going to cut your fat! Anavar (var) however has been proven to cut body fat.

also if you decide to run these two, best to make sure your drinking at least 450oz of water a day! seriously, and no alcohol at all!

Do you think certain sides could be avoided and decent gains be achieved using just 200mg ? wouldnt 300mg be best for lack of sides and gains? Its essentially a cruise dose right?

 

[dtroy]

I've seen that Winstrol (winny) may be alittle strong soo Im gunna switch to a 20mg ed winny(morning does) and 30mg ed anavar(afternoon dose). and run this, unless i start feeling sides of the Winstrol (winny). i was considering just Anavar (var) but it wont keep the muscle like the Winstrol (winny) & Anavar (var) stack will. oral only seems to be not something you should do often. if anyone has any more tips of things to add please do***8230;.

 

[codymx29]

Winny shouldnt even be coming across your mind here, Anavar (var) maybe. But no one is gonna give you advice sicne there is no test. I hope you dont like having sex man haha. And 40 mgs of Anavar (var) isnt gonna do much of anything. You are probably gonna do this anyway. So find some post cycle therapy (pct) and pray you still have natty test when its over. Im being a little dramatic here....but its only to help you.

 

[dtroy]

Winny shouldnt even be coming across your mind here, Anavar (var) maybe. But no one is gonna give you advice sicne there is no test. I hope you dont like having sex man haha. And 40 mgs of Anavar (var) isnt gonna do much of anything. You are probably gonna do this anyway. So find some post cycle therapy (pct) and pray you still have natty test when its over. Im being a little dramatic here....but its only to help you.

so whats the most mild test i add. im not looking for any gains in mass at all. and im not looking to pin myself daily.. im suppossed to start tomorrow but i can add test to it

 

[codymx29]

mild? test is test bro. Test e or c can be pinned once a week..... twice a week is better tho. 250 mgs a week should be fine. You need post cycle therapy (pct) planned or it wont matter if you take test on cycle or not. Your natural test wont just magically come back once you come off.(well it might since you're young) You need clomid or nolva. A lot of planning goes into these things and diet will make the biggest difference regardless.

 

[dtroy]

my diet is amazing. getting the post cycle therapy (pct) products isnt difficult
i think ill go find the test***8230; can i start the test lateron in my cycle

 

[3J]

oral only cycles are for idiots and pussies...

your only 21.. but if your stats are right your not in too bad shape... how did you get your bf tested??

 

[dtroy]

If it helps i'll be 22 in a month***8230;...had a trainer at the gym I go to do the a bf test with the capilator. Like i said though i've decided to drop the winny***8230;.and would just 30mg's twice a day be good..maybe use clomid for 3 week pct

 

[vladiT]

bro, i said in my first post, test cyp or test e, you SHOULD pin twice a week, but you Could pin once a week, if you get good gear, you wont feel a thing.

And you want to start your post cycle therapy (pct) 2-3 weeks AFTER your last pin, post cycle therapy (pct) wont do shit if gears still in your system

 

[dtroy]

Remeber im trying to cutt and soo adding a cutting cylce on top of a good diet

Would it be better lose dose of test with anavar or anavar only

wk 1-8 anavar 50mgs
250 test e wk 1-10
with clomid for 20 days few days after last pin

 

[DD55]

Wait until you're 25 at the earliest.

 

[Ozzy172]

21! you really dont need anything, your a fighting machine right now, but you obviously have your mind made up here soooo,

TEST IS BEST,

Some things never change and either has the old "Test is best" ....if it aint broke don't fix it. Don't let my post count fool you....I'm very , very experienced in this. Ask Pork Chopped

 

[GriffCity]

Taking two orals like Winstrol (winny) and Anavar (var) is like taking two kinds of vitamin C and expecting different results. These two orals act similarly with Anavar (var) being the more mild choice. Effects are things like strength gain, vascularity, lean muscle gain so sounds like maybe Anavar (var) is all u need. Winstrol (winny) does something along the same lines but the effects are a bit more dramatic however, the negaive effects are more profound as well. Things like sore joints, high liver toxicity just to name a couple. If you add test, you probably wont regret it but if u run two orals might regret that. Good luck

 

[vladiT]

i think you need to do some more research, Winstrol (winny) doesnt burn fat its going to make you LOOK cut, as soon as you stop you'll lose the cut because Winstrol (winny) dries you out.

If your trying to cut, get the diet spot on, and take your diet seriously, there is no magic pill/aas/substance for cutting fat... yet

in all reality there is no substitute for diet, Anavar (var) has been shown to help burn fat yes, test will be needed if you run var, because your natural test levels are most likely going to cut off.

 

[DADAWG]

hey, guys. I hope this in the right section to post.

Im new to everthing and just got my hands on some Winstrol (winny) and var(100 x 10mg pills of each) to do a 10 week cycle. I'm 21 about 5'10 and weigh around 225lbs with 14.5% body fat and trying to shed down for football. I was told to take 30mg ed(3 10mg pills) of winny(stanozolol) in the morning and then 20mg's ed anavar in the afternoon for 10 weeks. I got lots of milktthistle to help protect my liver 1000mgs ed. I was just wondering if that seems about right or i need to change to dosage. Im not need to gain any more muscle. I dont have access to any test. I've read alot of people have good results with winny/var cycles. I only plan on doing 1 oral only cycle like this, then I've work to find something i can inject. alot of people say you should take test with it but im not really leaning that way, plus i cant get any. really just doing it to help cutt wieght. i already know, no alcohol***8230;ect.
my only other option would be 20mg's Winstrol (winny) and 40mgs Anavar (var) or just var;maybe a higher dosage of it, if anyone has suggestions. if i was to add test, whats the most mild cause i dont want any more mass.

thanks in advance

please read this thread
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/598646-oral-cycles.html

also your math doesnt add up . 100 pills of each over 10 weeks slash/70 days would be LESS than 1.5 pills of each a day.


this cycle is a mistake , dont do it.

 

[mr.bean]

I agree. I think taking some time might be good. I have only done one cycle myself. but I can see you need to read more.

 

[clman8585]

hey, guys. I hope this in the right section to post.

Im new to everthing and just got my hands on some Winstrol (winny) and var(100 x 10mg pills of each) to do a 10 week cycle. I'm 21 about 5'10 and weigh around 225lbs with 14.5% body fat and trying to shed down for football. I was told to take 30mg ed(3 10mg pills) of winny(stanozolol) in the morning and then 20mg's ed anavar in the afternoon for 10 weeks. I got lots of milktthistle to help protect my liver 1000mgs ed. I was just wondering if that seems about right or i need to change to dosage. Im not need to gain any more muscle. I dont have access to any test. I've read alot of people have good results with winny/var cycles. I only plan on doing 1 oral only cycle like this, then I've work to find something i can inject. alot of people say you should take test with it but im not really leaning that way, plus i cant get any. really just doing it to help cutt wieght. i already know, no alcohol***8230;ect.
my only other option would be 20mg's Winstrol (winny) and 40mgs Anavar (var) or just var;maybe a higher dosage of it, if anyone has suggestions. if i was to add test, whats the most mild cause i dont want any more mass.

thanks in advance

I've done oral.cycles with good success, BUT they have been short and one compound. ( I don't get shutdown) but for tou to do 10wks and try to play football lol, you are fuckong crazy. You will feel like a little girl everttime you get hit cause you have no test. You will be worse at football if you run this cycle.