This thread is extremely important to me because it could save my health. I'm 32 male who was diagnosed with hypogonadism at the age of 20. My T levels were below 100 and my IGF was very low as well. I had every test known to man for answers, but nothing.
Well, prior to December of 2011 I was basically using androgel every single day as my only treatment. My T-level made it up to the mid 200's and my endocrinologist thought that was great. I told him I still feel like shit. So he doubled the gel dosage and also switched me back and forth with Testim.
In mid 2011 he finally started giving me a shot once a month in his office of 300mg of cyp. Felt good for a week and then nothing. Honestly, in the past 12 years I could not get intimate with a girl because I had no sex drive and could not get erections. Major depression kicked in and I just have been at rock bottom for years. I have been on zoloft for 11 years as well which I know could cause ED as well. Frequent thoughts of ending my life came and gone. Due to having a very close relationship with my folks, I could never do something that selfish.
In December of 2011 I started researching other types of docs that help out people like me and that are not endocrinologist. I found a company online and they saw all by bloodwork from the past 10 years and were astonished on why my doc would allow the gel daily for 12 years. He mentioned this most likely caused my body to not produce its own test and good chance I will have poor sperm count. Anyway, I told him that I am willing to do whatever it takes at this point. So he put initially on this protocol:
Test Cyp 200mg 2x a week
HCG 250 IU day following cyp injection
anastrazole 1/2mg day following cyp
HGH 4IU daily
I felt good at first and getting erections when I needed, mood elevated, more energy etc. Then end of Jan felt like complete shit again. So he now gives me test prop which I do 3x a week 100mg. I had a lot of leftover cyp so he said on 2 of the prop injection days add another mL of the cyp. little better but not what I was expecting. He wrote me out some scripts which my insurance actually covered for some danazol, Cytomel, Oxandrolone and B-12. I have everything filled and my medicine cabinet would probably give my mom a heart attack.
So right now I have a lot of meds and not sure exactly what to do at all. I know how to take them, but thats it. Here is my medicine cabinet:
2 vials prop 10mL/each
2 vials cyp 10mL/each
2 vials HCG 11,000 units/each
5,000 mg Oxandrolone
100 pills of Cytomel 50mcg/each
70 pills of Danazol 25mg/each
100 pills of Anastrazole 1mg/each
4 boxes of HGH 5mg vial/each
2 large vials of B-12 which could last a year
So I went from androgel to all this stuff. Once again I have not touched the Oxandrolone, cytomel or danazol yet.
Im asking for someone who has been in this game for a very long time to help me out on where to start, how long and what to take etc. I would be grateful for some good advice. As of now I havent received anything beneficial. I figured someone who has been there and dont that (maybe still does) knows better than anyone else. Let me add that I would like to have kids. Not any time within the next 3 years.
Obviously, I read about each of the items above and with summer coming up it would be nice to drop about 20 pounds if possible with strict diet and training.
I want to thank anyone in advance if you read this entire post. It really means everthing to me at this point and I just want to feel good and happy for once. Thank you all.
Well, prior to December of 2011 I was basically using androgel every single day as my only treatment. My T-level made it up to the mid 200's and my endocrinologist thought that was great. I told him I still feel like shit. So he doubled the gel dosage and also switched me back and forth with Testim.
In mid 2011 he finally started giving me a shot once a month in his office of 300mg of cyp. Felt good for a week and then nothing. Honestly, in the past 12 years I could not get intimate with a girl because I had no sex drive and could not get erections. Major depression kicked in and I just have been at rock bottom for years. I have been on zoloft for 11 years as well which I know could cause ED as well. Frequent thoughts of ending my life came and gone. Due to having a very close relationship with my folks, I could never do something that selfish.
In December of 2011 I started researching other types of docs that help out people like me and that are not endocrinologist. I found a company online and they saw all by bloodwork from the past 10 years and were astonished on why my doc would allow the gel daily for 12 years. He mentioned this most likely caused my body to not produce its own test and good chance I will have poor sperm count. Anyway, I told him that I am willing to do whatever it takes at this point. So he put initially on this protocol:
Test Cyp 200mg 2x a week
HCG 250 IU day following cyp injection
anastrazole 1/2mg day following cyp
HGH 4IU daily
I felt good at first and getting erections when I needed, mood elevated, more energy etc. Then end of Jan felt like complete shit again. So he now gives me test prop which I do 3x a week 100mg. I had a lot of leftover cyp so he said on 2 of the prop injection days add another mL of the cyp. little better but not what I was expecting. He wrote me out some scripts which my insurance actually covered for some danazol, Cytomel, Oxandrolone and B-12. I have everything filled and my medicine cabinet would probably give my mom a heart attack.
So right now I have a lot of meds and not sure exactly what to do at all. I know how to take them, but thats it. Here is my medicine cabinet:
2 vials prop 10mL/each
2 vials cyp 10mL/each
2 vials HCG 11,000 units/each
5,000 mg Oxandrolone
100 pills of Cytomel 50mcg/each
70 pills of Danazol 25mg/each
100 pills of Anastrazole 1mg/each
4 boxes of HGH 5mg vial/each
2 large vials of B-12 which could last a year
So I went from androgel to all this stuff. Once again I have not touched the Oxandrolone, cytomel or danazol yet.
Im asking for someone who has been in this game for a very long time to help me out on where to start, how long and what to take etc. I would be grateful for some good advice. As of now I havent received anything beneficial. I figured someone who has been there and dont that (maybe still does) knows better than anyone else. Let me add that I would like to have kids. Not any time within the next 3 years.
Obviously, I read about each of the items above and with summer coming up it would be nice to drop about 20 pounds if possible with strict diet and training.
I want to thank anyone in advance if you read this entire post. It really means everthing to me at this point and I just want to feel good and happy for once. Thank you all.
