NEW labs done MD wants me on Anastrazole..can you check his work for me??

[kilsong]

3 weeks ago I started 150mg once a week of Cyp.
Original labs looked like this:
Testosterone, Serum---264 ng/dl
Estradoil---21.0 pg/ml
Prostate -Specific Ag--0.5
Hemoglobin---14.6 g/dl

New labs say this;
Estradoil--52.7
Test--682


With my last injection they began me on HCG.

The doctor now wants me on Anastrazole 1 half pill, 3 times a week.
With the first dosage to be 1 full tablet.
Also raised my Cyp injection to 160 once a week. { only a 10mg increase???}

So far I'm feeling nothing other than maybe one occasion of increased libido...maybe.

Does this new protocol sound right to you guys?
Again--I havent gotten any real rewards yet.
I'm getting nervous that this whole thing might not work for me AT ALL!
i'M 42...decent shape 250 lbs ..gym 4-5 times weekly.
:-[

 

[1693]

1.5mg per week of the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) seems too much for most guys.

Other than that, the protocol doesn't seem so bad. He could have raised the test more perhaps.

Hopefully, by the time 6 weeks roll around you'll be feeling it.

 

[Gbrad]

3 weeks ago I started 150mg once a week of Cyp.
Original labs looked like this:
Testosterone, Serum---264 ng/dl
Estradoil---21.0 pg/ml
Prostate -Specific Ag--0.5
Hemoglobin---14.6 g/dl

New labs say this;
Estradoil--52.7
Test--682


With my last injection they began me on HCG.

The doctor now wants me on Anastrazole 1 half pill, 3 times a week.
With the first dosage to be 1 full tablet.
Also raised my Cyp injection to 160 once a week. { only a 10mg increase???}

So far I'm feeling nothing other than maybe one occasion of increased libido...maybe.

Does this new protocol sound right to you guys?
Again--I havent gotten any real rewards yet.
I'm getting nervous that this whole thing might not work for me AT ALL!
i'M 42...decent shape 250 lbs ..gym 4-5 times weekly.
:-[

Give it some more time my man. I'd love to hear back from you when that estrogen is down to 25-30 range and test in the 700s. Should be the case soon. I'm on a very similar protocol and feel great.

 

[halfwit]

1.5mg per week of the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) seems too much for most guys.

Other than that, the protocol doesn't seem so bad. He could have raised the test more perhaps.

Hopefully, by the time 6 weeks roll around you'll be feeling it.

I too question such a high dose of adex at testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) doses. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) does aromatize a bit, which might be why the sudden drastic increase, but I'm curious how bloods will look in a month. OP: If you start to feel really tired or have a lot of joint pain, I'd talk to your doctor about dropping that adex dose down to .25mg EOD instead. You can likely expect your TT levels to be well into the 800's with the introduction of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (you convert less test to estradiol) and the small bump in test.

It took me several months before I started to feel 100% better as the negative sides from low-T can take some time to disappear. Especially that damn adipose fat that comes from it.

 

[Megatron28]

That's way too much Arimidex. That is going to crash your E big time. Start with less and increase if necessary. I would recommend taking .25mg twice a week.

BTW: I am assuming that each pill is the typical 1mg that Arimidex comes in.

 

[totalburnout]

3 weeks ago I started 150mg once a week of Cyp.
Original labs looked like this:
Testosterone, Serum---264 ng/dl
Estradoil---21.0 pg/ml
Prostate -Specific Ag--0.5
Hemoglobin---14.6 g/dl

New labs say this;
Estradoil--52.7
Test--682


With my last injection they began me on HCG.

The doctor now wants me on Anastrazole 1 half pill, 3 times a week.
With the first dosage to be 1 full tablet.
Also raised my Cyp injection to 160 once a week. { only a 10mg increase???}

So far I'm feeling nothing other than maybe one occasion of increased libido...maybe.

Does this new protocol sound right to you guys?
Again--I havent gotten any real rewards yet.
I'm getting nervous that this whole thing might not work for me AT ALL!
i'M 42...decent shape 250 lbs ..gym 4-5 times weekly.
:-[

You don't disclose your dose of hCG but between adding an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like anastrozole, increasing T dosage AND adding in hCG to your protocol, your Total T count will increase and more importantly so will your free T. hCG increases T. Aromatase inhibitor (AI) prevents T from converting to estrogen, which also increases T and Free T. Upping the T dosage obviously increases T as well, as long as its not converted to estrogen. You'll probably sit somewhere between 800-1000 TT after those changes. Was your previous T number a peak number or trough number? If it was a trough, that's not a bad number to be at for a low.

His dosing seems about right. I understand he's having you take the 1mg pill initially to knock that estrogen back. I'd probably take .25mg EOD (every other day) instead of .5mg.

 

[kilsong]

OK..thanks.
So that FIRST dose should be one FULL tab then.
Can I ask just one more quick question?
How long does Anastrazole take to kick in and is it something I will notice?
Or is it just that now I'll begin to feel the effects of the Cyp because it would be working better BECAUSE of the Anastrazole?

 

[totalburnout]

OK..thanks.
So that FIRST dose should be one FULL tab then.
Can I ask just one more quick question?
How long does Anastrazole take to kick in and is it something I will notice?
Or is it just that now I'll begin to feel the effects of the Cyp because it would be working better BECAUSE of the Anastrazole?

Anastrozole which is the generic name for the drug Arimidex (or adex) has a half life of 48 hours. It'll begin to work immediately. It works by binding to the same sites that estrogen would bind. Essentially it's blocking the conversion of T to E2 which is why aromatase inhibitors are sometimes referred to as estrogen blockers.

Yes, I'd take the 1mg pill for the first dose but only for the first dose.

 

[DCx]

.5mg is enough for me after each 100mg test injection.

 

[totalburnout]

.5mg is enough for me after each 100mg test injection.

Do you take it all at once or spill it up? If it's working, then don't fool with it but for some it may be beneficial to split it based on the half life or play with the timing of taking it.

I.e., if T peaks around 48 hours after injection and Anastrozole has a half life of approximately 48 hours, it may make more sense to take the anastrozole a day or two after the injection. I've found it preferable to split the doses and take .25mg with the injection and then .25mg a day or two later.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Anastrozole which is the generic name for the drug Arimidex (or adex) has a half life of 48 hours. It'll begin to work immediately. It works by binding to the same sites that estrogen would bind. Essentially it's blocking the conversion of T to E2 which is why aromatase inhibitors are sometimes referred to as estrogen blockers.

Just stop doing this to yourself, it makes you look way stupider than you are. If you don't know how something works just don't post about it.

Anastrozole does not attach to the same receptors as estradiol, and anyone who calls an inhibitor a blocker is confused, like yourself.

Adex does not block anything, it inhibits the aromatase enzyme from doing its job, therefore lowering estrogen. This is how all aromatase inhibitors work.

SERM's, what you were unknowingly referring to, attach to estrogen receptors so that estrogen cannot, blocking estrogen. This is a blocker, 2 totally different things.

 

[totalburnout]

Just stop doing this to yourself, it makes you look way stupider than you are. If you don't know how something works just don't post about it.

Anastrozole does not attach to the same receptors as estradiol, and anyone who calls an inhibitor a blocker is confused, like yourself.

Adex does not block anything, it inhibits the aromatase enzyme from doing its job, therefore lowering estrogen. This is how all aromatase inhibitors work.

SERM's, what you were unknowingly referring to, attach to estrogen receptors so that estrogen cannot, blocking estrogen. This is a blocker, 2 totally different things.

Congratulations, this is the first post whee you actually had a point that want simply founded on opinion.

You're right, I attempted to get too technical on the fly and I grouped all AI's and SERMs together in my explanation.

This must really make you feel vindicated. Unfortunately my point for how he should dose still stands and wasn't dependent on whether the drug was blocking an enzyme or binding at a receptor. At the end of the day, the drugs serve very similar purposes and have been used interchangeably. Obviously SERMs are better for post cycle therapy (pct) but none of this has relevance to the advice I gave him, other than you want to be the dick swinger you are and try to one up me.

Stop ruining these guys' threads. They're legitimately asking for help and not for you to try to thump your chest and make up for your inadequate manhood.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

At the end of the day, the drugs serve very similar purposes and have been used interchangeably.

Yea maybe by someone that does't have a clue what they are doing.

So no and no, they are not similar at all, they do not serve similar purposes and anyone who uses them interchangeably is an idiot............

 

[DCx]

Do you take it all at once or spill it up? If it's working, then don't fool with it but for some it may be beneficial to split it based on the half life or play with the timing of taking it.

I.e., if T peaks around 48 hours after injection and Anastrozole has a half life of approximately 48 hours, it may make more sense to take the anastrozole a day or two after the injection. I've found it preferable to split the doses and take .25mg with the injection and then .25mg a day or two later.

here is my schedule...

monday-
tuesday-
wednesday morning - 100 testosterone
thursday morning - .5mg Aromatase inhibitor (AI), 250iu hcg
friday-
saturday afternoon - 100 testosterone
sunday afternoon -.5mg Aromatase inhibitor (AI), 250iu hcg

 

[totalburnout]

here is my schedule...

monday-
tuesday-
wednesday morning - 100 testosterone
thursday morning - .5mg Aromatase inhibitor (AI), 250iu hcg
friday-
saturday afternoon - 100 testosterone
sunday afternoon -.5mg Aromatase inhibitor (AI), 250iu hcg

Why would you schedule this way?

The hCG injections generally come before the next injection - not after. Injecting T and then spiking your levels further by injecting hCG is only going to make managing estrogen more difficult. By taking the hCG injection as the T diminishes, you're also helping to boost your T levels at a time they would otherwise be falling. I can't recall seeing a single protocol that would advocate your method as a best practice.

 

[Thekwon]

3 weeks ago I started 150mg once a week of Cyp.
Original labs looked like this:
Testosterone, Serum---264 ng/dl
Estradoil---21.0 pg/ml
Prostate -Specific Ag--0.5
Hemoglobin---14.6 g/dl

New labs say this;
Estradoil--52.7
Test--682


With my last injection they began me on HCG.

The doctor now wants me on Anastrazole 1 half pill, 3 times a week.
With the first dosage to be 1 full tablet.
Also raised my Cyp injection to 160 once a week. { only a 10mg increase???}

So far I'm feeling nothing other than maybe one occasion of increased libido...maybe.

Does this new protocol sound right to you guys?
Again--I havent gotten any real rewards yet.
I'm getting nervous that this whole thing might not work for me AT ALL!
i'M 42...decent shape 250 lbs ..gym 4-5 times weekly.
:-[

10mg could give you a bigger boost than you think when combined with HCG. You're also going to feel much better as soon as you start the Aromatase inhibitor (AI). The dosage in your post is double what I take (.25mg E3D) but everyone's different.

Oh and if they keep me at 160mg while I'm on my HCG cycle (I cycle on/off), I test in the 900's on my low day. Just give it time and they will get you dialed in and you'll feel amazing. Took me nine months of small adjustments before everything was perfect.