newb first cycle help

[ppd3196]

I have 10000mg test cyp and 10000mg HCG. I gotta be honest, I never thought I would do this and am not sure what I'm doing. My diet is in check my bf is about 16% (a little high, I know).
Looking for for help on how to do this, and what else I need to get before starting.
I'm 34, 6'3" 210.....help....

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I'll move this to the Anabolic forum for you.....

 

[ppd3196]

Sorry. Saw that a little late. I was just trying to figure out how to move it.

 

[ppd3196]

anyone....

 

[Ythrashin]

You need a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and PCT.

AI- aromasin or adex
PCT/SERM -nolva and/or clomid.

 

[jjtattoofreak]

WHat he ^^ Said

 

[cyto33]

well first thing is to read some things hear first. thats quit the stack you have. do some resaerch on post cycle therapy (pct) this will help you when you are coming off the test. cyp.
Cyp has a half life of 12 days so post cycle therapy (pct) would start then. clomid/nolva.
you have more then enough gear there to run a first cycle. just study first put a plan together and have it tweaked as needed if at all. check out the profile on cyp. top of the page here.

 

[Scarz]

I have 10000mg test cyp and 10000mg HCG. I gotta be honest, I never thought I would do this and am not sure what I'm doing. My diet is in check my bf is about 16% (a little high, I know).
Looking for for help on how to do this, and what else I need to get before starting.
I'm 34, 6'3" 210.....help....

Available Test: 10,000 mg
Required: 500 mg / week
Legnth: 12 weeks (injections)
Total Test mg: 500 mg x 12 wks = 6,000 mg

You will have 4,000 mg of test cyp left over and available for your next cycle.

Cycle Pre-requisites:
-Atleast 4-5 yrs of training
-Over age 21
-Medical Conditions and/or medication that will not interact or prevent any steroid use where steroid use can cause health risks.
-Body fat % no more than 16%
-Self-control and Self-dsciplined
-Realistic Expectations and Goals
-Proper Diet
-Steroids for cycle and the post cycle therapy (pct) to be all at hand
-Abide by your governing state's or country's laws regarding the use of steroids (haha)
-Have researched steroids and the use of steroids for atleast 6 months (forums are the best place)

In your case, depending on what's available to you, an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) would be great during your cycle and proper post cycle therapy (pct) including Serms.

 

[Teutonic]

^^^^^^There you have it ^^^^^^

 

[ppd3196]

Thanks for your help.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Cyp has a half life of 12 days so pct would start then.

Actually the true half life of cypionate or enanthate is 5 - 6 days. The active life is 10 - 12 days, and that is why PCT should start 2 weeks after last injection of either of those two esters.

 

[Ythrashin]

Way to lay things out for him Scarz...

You have a lot of research ahead man.
Getting the gear is just half the battle.

It may not go smoothly...
Some people have problems with post inject pain.
You could have problems with gyno,bloat and other sides like acne.
PCT could be hard...
You need to practice good hygiene when injecting because infection is a possibility.

Research all these things everyone has mentioned and be prepared...

We are here to answer questions and to help guide you.
We are not here to hold your hand....

 

[Ythrashin]

Actually the true half life of cypionate or enanthate is 5 - 6 days. The active life is 10 - 12 days, and that is why post cycle therapy (pct) should start 2 weeks after last injection of either of those two esters.

Dont want to go far into it..but isnt active life dose dependent?

This is from a article floating around the forums:

Active Life versus Half Life

The confusion comes from the 2 terms being used synonymously when they should not be. "Half-life is not a reference for the total time a drug will be found active in the body. It may take several half-lives before the drug is completely inactive."

Half-life: The period of time required for the concentration or amount of drug in the body to be reduced to exactly one-half of a given concentration or amount.

Example: The half-life of anavar is 9 hours+/- (9 hours after oral administration of 50 mg of anavar, 25mg is still present in the body).

Active life: Refers to the period in which the amount of a drug in the body is enough that it will still produce the desired effects for which it was administered. Or conversely, inhibit natural recovery of normal bodily function. It is dose dependent.

Example: The active life of 1,000mg of testosterone decanoate would be more than one month. At day 30 after injection, 250mg or more of this drug would still be present in the body.

 

[cyto33]

Actually the true half life of cypionate or enanthate is 5 - 6 days. The active life is 10 - 12 days, and that is why post cycle therapy (pct) should start 2 weeks after last injection of either of those two esters.

nice catch
peace man

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Dont want to go far into it..but isnt active life dose dependent?

Nope..... it is not.

Think about these ways;

If it was dose dependant, post cycle therapy (pct) start times would be all over the place once you went over 500mg/week.

If active life actually changed with dosage, then you would not be getting the full effects of an increased dosage.
i.e. if 500mg lasts 14 days based on active life, you get ~250 week....correct?.....if 1000mg actually lasted 28 days as in that article, then you are still getting the same ~250mg/week....and that is clearly wrong.

It only makes sense that the ester attached to the steroid releases all the steroid within the same time frame, regardless of dosage. The ester has no way of knowing how much you injected and making changes in the rate of release. Once the steroid is released from the atteched ester, it attaches to your receptors and does it's thing, and that is why you get twice the effect from say 500mg as compared to 1000mg.

 

[Ythrashin]

Ok thanks Stone.

That makes more sense then the articles explanation.