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[ASUDevil]

Hey all,

I'm a 35 year old guy that's been actively looking into TRT. Symptoms present like one of those online medical lists "Do you have low T?". General malaise, aches pains, low energy, low sex drive, chronically tired, rapid weight gain, trouble maintaining erections, incessant desire for sweets...etc. 5 years ago I was 185 lbs, worked out 2x a day, never drank alcohol, caffeine, or soda. Some events occurred in the 5 years and after the rubble was cleared away I'm 245 and lazy-s-o-b. Like someone turned off a switch in me. I'm wondering if you guys can point me to older posts that might be good for me to read or some general knowledge from the "ol pros" that will help me in my new quest. I'm in Austin Texas right now and will be going to see the team at NDH Lifetime Health (anyone heard good or bad?) in a month or so to see what's going on with me. I've read through a lot of your posts so far and it sounds like i'm in the right place. Thanks again for any help.

Trey

 

[300winmag]

Below is what I wrote for somebody else and might give you some start point. before anything you need to do a blood test. Full hormone panel to see exactly the issue if you even have one. From what it sounds like it may be lifestyle that is part of your problem. Get a blood test and make sure you get testosterone checked as well as thyroid, cholesterol, LH, FSH, ferritin, prolactin, and thyroid. Also check all your mineral levels. I would also do a cortisol test.


TRT and Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) are sometime reffered to as the samething. But testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) really reffers to testosterone(test) replacement therapy, Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is hormone replacement which can include testosterone but can be other things as well.

TRT you can really do one of two things gel or shots. GEL is rubbed onto your shoulders every single day(the androgel you see on commercials). Some have very good luck with it some dont, if you dont like needles this might be your route. Otherwise there are injections of either Testosterone cyp or Testosterone Ethanate. Most people do 100-200mg every week, if you get a doctor that wants to do a shot every two week or more, good luck as you will be up and down. Most people do well with shots.

Sometimes guys are on a cocktail of things such as an anti estrogen, because for some synttheic test turns into estrogen and you have to block it. This form is usually in pill form and dosage varies, at least according to the is site from what I have seen there are more people not on it then on it but its close, a lot of docs are weary of giving this to you. Lastly it seems as if more guys then not are on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) but again the numbers are close. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) basically stimulates your natural production of test but see below for more information.

Now the bad- once you start it is a life time type thing, as you can sometimes revive it but sythetic test most of the time kills your natural production so your on it for life. You can experience symtoms of gyno basically female traits like puffy nipples etc, which an anti estrogen or Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is given something like Arimidex. Other things like acne can happen, shrinkage of balls and lowered sperm count and that is why a lot of guys are on an HCG, but if you dont want kids and are older this may not be necessary or something you want to take as it is another injection usually a few times a week. On testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) most people dont get the classic roid rage or have mega issues with growing boobs and or having their balls totally dissapear. There are plenty like myself that do just fine with test alone. There are other side effects such as liver and kidney issues, but on a closely monitored regimine you will be fine.

The good- if you need it testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) will help you sleep better, less anxiety, brain fog will disappear, more energy, muscles will feel tougher, better libido etc.

Overall I think the postives outweigh the negatives. But whats your age if your older and your numbers are higher than 300 i would look elsewhere even if your younger I would try other things first. Things like lack of sleep, alcohol intake, diet, and exercise can affect your T levels a lot so it may be worthwhile to to fix those first. Other things to look at might be iron deficiency, thyroid as well. Like I said earlier once on here its for life.

 

[ASUDevil]

300,
Thank you for the primer. This is something that I've postulated for the last couple of years and have done a lot of research into what may be causing this downturn of mine. I've tried for the last couple of years to change my diet, exercise, etc... and though i've lost 30 lbs I still feel as turned off as I've ever been. I don't drink, I actually sleep fine; its just I want to sleep ALL the time, I don't want to get up. Anxiety?? never had it, now I get chest flutters thinking of things I don't want to do. It actually is happening when I wake up in the morning for no reason (supra-consciously atleast). This all started about 2 years ago when I was in really bad shape. A friend who's a physician at Mass Gen ordered me cbc, full chem, but he added serum test (i know this is not how to truly measure T) just to see what was going on. I was unaware he did it but it came back 310 (test was taken in morning 8am) and he told me he thinks I'm having some hormone problems (not his specialty) and i should go for more complete testing. I dismissed it as probably not exercising anymore, etc... and really couldn't believe that that was the problem. That's for old people i thought. However, the more I've read books, blogs, posts, pubmed, IRD, the more I'm thinking that hormone imbalances are possibly indicative of things going on. I'm scheduled Friday for full blood panel including Total Testosterone, Free Testosterone, SHBG, E2, Free Thyroid, Free T4, TSH, Lipid Profile (cholesterol), Complete Metabolic Panel, calcium, protein, kidney, liver functions, cardiac risk factor, HA1C (pre-diabetes and diabetes), and Complete Blood Count Panel. I'll post what they've found and go from there. Thank you again for the help and look forward with talking w/ you more.

 

[IMT staff]

Have them add a Vitamin D 3 test, 1,25 hydroxy

Edit: I see calcium now

 

[300winmag]

300,
Thank you for the primer. This is something that I've postulated for the last couple of years and have done a lot of research into what may be causing this downturn of mine. I've tried for the last couple of years to change my diet, exercise, etc... and though i've lost 30 lbs I still feel as turned off as I've ever been. I don't drink, I actually sleep fine; its just I want to sleep ALL the time, I don't want to get up. Anxiety?? never had it, now I get chest flutters thinking of things I don't want to do. It actually is happening when I wake up in the morning for no reason (supra-consciously atleast). This all started about 2 years ago when I was in really bad shape. A friend who's a physician at Mass Gen ordered me cbc, full chem, but he added serum test (i know this is not how to truly measure T) just to see what was going on. I was unaware he did it but it came back 310 (test was taken in morning 8am) and he told me he thinks I'm having some hormone problems (not his specialty) and i should go for more complete testing. I dismissed it as probably not exercising anymore, etc... and really couldn't believe that that was the problem. That's for old people i thought. However, the more I've read books, blogs, posts, pubmed, IRD, the more I'm thinking that hormone imbalances are possibly indicative of things going on. I'm scheduled Friday for full blood panel including Total Testosterone, Free Testosterone, SHBG, E2, Free Thyroid, Free T4, TSH, Lipid Profile (cholesterol), Complete Metabolic Panel, calcium, protein, kidney, liver functions, cardiac risk factor, HA1C (pre-diabetes and diabetes), and Complete Blood Count Panel. I'll post what they've found and go from there. Thank you again for the help and look forward with talking w/ you more.

yeah no problem. May also want to add PSA into your blood work to check for prostate issues and to get a baseline. Also I would reccomend prolactin this checks your pituatary gland. Which most of the time there are two reasons for low T, well beyond environmental control like weight, diet etc. The two most common reasons are pituatary which prolactin will check and your balls is the second reason(hypogonadism) to check your balls you can get your LH and FSH checked. This will give a good indicator why you have an issue. A physical exam of your junk can allso see if you have a varicose vein on your balls which is a reason for low. If all else these will give you baseline numbers to keep along your journey. Thats one of the problems I had is a PCP doc started me out on injections without running the full blood screen which didnt help ID my baseline on a lot of things. So a lot of these test came after the fact and had a lot of chasing around since I didnt have baselines.

If your prolactin numbers come back funny they may opt for a MRI of your pituatary to see if it has a tumor, but dont worry its not cancerous if you have one. Just be sure to get all the testing done first. Alot of guys I have seen rush into just based off of T numbers without looking at everything. And Id pretty upset to find out a year later it was really my thyroid and could have been on a simple pill vs shots. And at that point you would probably be stuck with the shots forvever. Also have patience some guys get a great docs and the process goes really quick but for more guys it seems it takes months to nail everything down. I have been going about 5 months and only about 70% there but finally have an appointment with a urologist tomorrow which I hope completes the puzzle.

 

[IMT staff]

And at that point you would probably be stuck with the shots forvever.

I agree with everything said above except this part. If you get destined on testosterone shots forever then it is because you had a testosterone problem to begin with. For those that merely have a bad diet and are tertiary I don't think there is anything wrong with them using Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) temporarily to get there health profile in check and then do an HPTA normalization program. After all if someone cleaned up there diet and got back in shape they could easily have normal testosterone readings afterwards. The FDA has no problem doling out Phentramine and other short cuts that have far worse side effects. When your testosterone is already low, its very hard to get to the gym and get your health back, everything is working against you.

There is no research ever showing permanent desensitization of the leydig cells, the only doc who ever published peer reviewed clinical research on HPTA recovery after ASIH has said many times almost every single patient he had recovered, it wasn't a matter of if, it was a matter of time. Research has shown, and there are endless clinical studies on those using high dose steroid cycles with things far more suppressive than testosterone, that upon ceasing the androgens or anabolics patients numbers always come back into range, usually in the same amount of time that they were suppressed.

So I don't know where this for life rumor started but its the exact opposite of what is seen clinically, and in subjective reports of AAS users.

Knowing that, what is wrong with a trial run? for someone that has lowT to begin with? If they are destined forever to T shots then it was because they were destined to have lowT, not because they took testosterone.

Just My 2 Cents

Obviously men under 30 need a much more thorough diagnosis.

 

[300winmag]

I agree with everything said above except this part. If you get destined on testosterone shots forever then it is because you had a testosterone problem to begin with. For those that merely have a bad diet and are tertiary I don't think there is anything wrong with them using Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) temporarily to get there health profile in check and then do an HPTA normalization program. After all if someone cleaned up there diet and got back in shape they could easily have normal testosterone readings afterwards. The FDA has no problem doling out Phentramine and other short cuts that have far worse side effects. When your testosterone is already low, its very hard to get to the gym and get your health back, everything is working against you.

There is no research ever showing permanent desensitization of the leydig cells, the only doc who ever published peer reviewed clinical research on HPTA recovery after ASIH has said many times almost every single patient he had recovered, it wasn't a matter of if, it was a matter of time. Research has shown, and there are endless clinical studies on those using high dose steroid cycles with things far more suppressive than testosterone, that upon ceasing the androgens or anabolics patients numbers always come back into range, usually in the same amount of time that they were suppressed.

So I don't know where this for life rumor started but its the exact opposite of what is seen clinically, and in subjective reports of AAS users.

Knowing that, what is wrong with a trial run? for someone that has lowT to begin with? If they are destined forever to T shots then it was because they were destined to have lowT, not because they took testosterone.

Just My 2 Cents

Obviously men under 30 need a much more thorough diagnosis.

I agree thats more or less what I was saying. I was trying to convey that thorough diagnois is done first to be sure its nothing else. But like you said if you need you need it, plain and simple. And yeah I mean doesnt necessarily kill your natural production all the time, but there is that chance. There are quite a few guys on T now probably because they did roids earlier in life, but then again you could attribute that to cycling and not TRT. But all in all it is a life decision if you decide to persue it but is definitely worth it.

 

[IMT staff]

I think everything you said was spot on, I just don't like giving guys the impression that if they take testosterone then they forever have to get this medication. Just because its not really so. Guys do successful restarts quite often.

I do see former AAS users that may need testosterone earlier in life, but I am just not sold its because of the testosterone. It could be due to many things, like they stayed on for 5 years straight and did not do a proper recovery. Maybe they put up with it for 2 years but it wasn't long enough. Thats what Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with a restart does, it re sensitizes the leydig cells, shortening recovery time. So maybe a restart would help them.

Another angle could be that these are the guys that know more about it, so they check there levels, so we see more of them in comparison to the average Joe.

Its just not quite clear, and from the research I have seen everyone almost always recovers.

Either way I will also agree that its not for everyone, so it is a big decision. I personally wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[ASUDevil]

300 and IMT,

I at least know that I'm in the right spot. Your education and knowledge is exactly why I am on this site. Thank you again.

300, I understand why you're painting the picture you do. You probably see many "newbies" come on this site and most are searching for something to get them thin again. I assume many truly don't understand that deciding to take something that can alter your internal system needs to be properly diagnosed and treated accordingly, and not run into haphazardly. Test is not a panacea; as there are many systems that can cause the problem that we're searching for and this is just one avenue. I appreciate you giving me the advice regarding prolactin and PSA and also about varioceles. Its funny you said that, when I was 19 I had my team physical and the team physician told me that he thinks I have a varicocele. I saw my PCP that year and told him about it and he noted thickening and "tissue-y" but told me...ah, you'll be fine it's nothing. I saw my new PCP last year and at that time my left nut hurt and brought up what my team physician told me. He wasn't a caring individual and he basically says, there's nothing wrong you need to loose weight and exercise. I told him that when I do I feel like shit and shut down for like 3 days....silence...silence..."well, you need to go to the gym more". W.T.F? Are you serious. (haven't been back)
Anyways, I've always told my PCPs' about what the team doc said but nobody ever referred me to a urologist for eval. Kind of gives support to the reactive healthcare model than the proactive model. Anyways, I'll be sure to bring up all these issues and the tests as well come friday.

IMT - I agree, research i've done doesn't support HPTA shutdown, as it's more of a myth. It seems to be a product perpetuated by the "officials" overseeing our children (i.e. high-school athletes)to scare them into never trying steroids..but fact needs to be separated from fiction and thank you for clarifying this for me. Now, that doesn't mean there's not a .0001%er out there and I truly wouldn't like to find out if I am, but If I know I have a better chance of winning the lotto then I'm fine with that risk.

Thank you again for all your help and any more advice please don't hesitate to send my way. I'll post those numbers as soon as I receive them and subsequent recommended protocol (if any needed).


Cheers,
Trey

 

[rowdybrad]

There are several restart protocols you can try, but need them blood results first.

I got a vericocele at 18 and my testes shrunk and were very painful. I believe my low t started then.

 

[mmkcmo]

There are several restart protocols you can try, but need them blood results first.

I got a vericocele at 18 and my testes shrunk and were very painful. I believe my low t started then.

Interesting.... This may well be part of my issue as I was diagnosed with having a varicocele several years ago. They said they could perform surgery to correct it but the risks sounded to outweigh the benefits at the time.... Mayne this is whats causing my low t levels...

 

[Mr P]

There are several restart protocols you can try, but need them blood results first.

I got a vericocele at 18 and my testes shrunk and were very painful. I believe my low t started then.

Welcome Asudevil, rowdy is right about blood work get it done, than see IMT they will take care of you and make you feel younger

 

[300winmag]

300 and IMT,

I at least know that I'm in the right spot. Your education and knowledge is exactly why I am on this site. Thank you again.

300, I understand why you're painting the picture you do. You probably see many "newbies" come on this site and most are searching for something to get them thin again. I assume many truly don't understand that deciding to take something that can alter your internal system needs to be properly diagnosed and treated accordingly, and not run into haphazardly. Test is not a panacea; as there are many systems that can cause the problem that we're searching for and this is just one avenue. I appreciate you giving me the advice regarding prolactin and PSA and also about varioceles. Its funny you said that, when I was 19 I had my team physical and the team physician told me that he thinks I have a varicocele. I saw my PCP that year and told him about it and he noted thickening and "tissue-y" but told me...ah, you'll be fine it's nothing. I saw my new PCP last year and at that time my left nut hurt and brought up what my team physician told me. He wasn't a caring individual and he basically says, there's nothing wrong you need to loose weight and exercise. I told him that when I do I feel like shit and shut down for like 3 days....silence...silence..."well, you need to go to the gym more". W.T.F? Are you serious. (haven't been back)
Anyways, I've always told my PCPs' about what the team doc said but nobody ever referred me to a urologist for eval. Kind of gives support to the reactive healthcare model than the proactive model. Anyways, I'll be sure to bring up all these issues and the tests as well come friday.

IMT - I agree, research i've done doesn't support HPTA shutdown, as it's more of a myth. It seems to be a product perpetuated by the "officials" overseeing our children (i.e. high-school athletes)to scare them into never trying steroids..but fact needs to be separated from fiction and thank you for clarifying this for me. Now, that doesn't mean there's not a .0001%er out there and I truly wouldn't like to find out if I am, but If I know I have a better chance of winning the lotto then I'm fine with that risk.

Thank you again for all your help and any more advice please don't hesitate to send my way. I'll post those numbers as soon as I receive them and subsequent recommended protocol (if any needed).


Cheers,
Trey

No problem Im not a pro and consider myself a newb myself but have done hours of reserach on the internet, including forums, articles, journals, etc. Ive just seen a lot people out there think this is a get rich scheme and go from tubby to arnold with just a few shots. But to come find out they drink beer every day, dont work out, sleep 2 hours a day etc. Its a process specially if you go the doctor the route as a lot of them are more cautious then other avenues of getting the stuff which sometimes there is no need to be, but there is this fake fear out there like you said. But sometimes its good as well not to rush into things.

But I do think doctors need to wake up on this because you see more and more younger people with low T problems which is a problem. And I guess you could see this as a good thing, but look at all the young girls these days with massive boobs running around obviously more estrogen from somewhere. So I dont know if the low T in men and high E in girls is something that is linked or not.

Your best bet is run every test possible, take what you hear from the doctor and on here and find the best solution for yourself.

 

[ASUDevil]

To everyone reading this: I understand that you may or may not be physicians and I understand that your comments to me are in no way to diagnose my condition. Also, any comments written on this Forum/blog to me are not to be used by others to diagnose their own conditions, please seek a qualified medical physician for that purpose. Sorry for legaleze.

As promised, lab panel
HemoGlob: 16.2 g/dl
Hemtaocrt: 48.8%
Free T3: 2.8 pg/ml
Free T4: 1.41 ng/dl
TSH: 0.8 uiu/ml
E2: 16 pg/ml
DHEA: 242 ug/dl
PSA: 1.1 ng/ml
Insulin: 10 uiu/ml
hsCRP: 8.4 mg/L
Test: 218 ng/dL
SHBG: 28 Nmol/L
Calc Free T: 4.8ng/dL
HA1c: 5.7%
Ferritin: 202 ng/ml
Prolactin: 5.5 ng/ml
Vitamin D, 25 oh: 23 ng/ml
Glucose: 96 mg/dl
Cholesterol: 192 mg/dl
Triglyc: 169 mg/dl
HDL: 44 mg/dl
LDL: 114 mg/dl
LDL/HDL: 2.60 ratio
Protein: 6.8 g/dl
Albu: 5.0 g/dl
Globulin: 1.8 g/dl
A/G ratio: 2.8 g/dl

So today i went for my consult to go over lab results and there are few things that we talked about. Doc had concerns about sugar, triglycerides and cholesterol, CRP and HA1C and also the very low testosterone. We talked a lot about the inflammation markers. He wants to do a cortisol sputum test next week. He feels cortisol is doing a good bulk of damage and thus wants to see how well my adrenals are working. The next course of action is an injection and sending me home with Test Cyp (4 week) 200mg/mL (0.5cc q3d), then supplements of Vitamin D 5Kiu, Magnesium, and thyroid stimulator and Anastrozole .5mg. He wasn't worried about E2 for me but told me to start taking it during this month to see how the labs change with it. We can always reduce the e2 block later. Then follow up labs and see how far removed we are from baseline and what effect the compounds have had on my next set of labs. Feel free to weigh in on the above labs. Injection today was in rectus femoris upper quad, didn't feel a thing. I can feel a small ache in the muscle now after about 3 hours but hardly was noticeable. I don't know if whats placebo effect of potentially feeling better but I had almost a weird euphoria for about 3-4 hours after like I took a sedative. I don't know if I'm high on the thought of starting to feel better or if there's any logical explanation for the effect.

Anyways, I'll keep a log and update frequently also with measurements and such to see how I'm improving if at all. Please ring in and give me your insights it truly stimulates me to learn more.

Cheers and thank you for all your help.

Trey

 

[SamSong]

Fix the T, probably everything else will go away. I got onto testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) a while ago, my spend on drugs has better than halved. Hmmm - wonder if that's why it's so hard to get.

0.5ml E3D is what I preach. I shoot in delts with 25g 3/4" needle. Takes less time than cleaning my teeth; so easy it's stupid. I have never had pain higher tha 1/10. It's good to have the anti-E on hand, but if you don't need it then don't take it. E3D shots keeps T levels really stable, which assists in minimising aromatisation, and that's a nice low dose - but one which should take you to above "normal" - which for me is the only way to fly.

But seriously, just go with the T, start exercising again (that won't be hard!) and I'll bet most of your problems will go away.

 

[ASUDevil]

TRT Week 1
200mg/mL split 0.5mL e3D
.25mg Anastrozole
Supplements: Vitamin D, Magnesium, Berberine (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berberine), and natural thyroid stimulator
Workout supplements: Whey Protein, BCAAs. Whey throughout day, whey+Bcaa+banana post workout)

Workouts:
M: Chest, Tris, Abs (6 exercises per, 10-12 reps, medium weight)
T: Back, Bis, Calves Cardio: 30 min at night (3.5 incline and 3.5mph)
W: Shoulders, Traps, Abs
Th: off (couldnt get to gym)
F: Quads, Hams, and Calves Cardio: 40 min at night (10,10,10,10 Tread, Bike, Ellip, Stair)

Diet:
My diet stayed pretty much the same, whey before workout, whey + BCAA + fruit after, eggs for breakfast. Lunch: Turkey sandwich on rye or subway 6" flatbread chicken breast and dinner followed up with lean protein like tuna,ono, chicken, or pork chop and veggies like salads, jicama salad or zucchini and mushrooms.

Effect:
The first couple days I believe that my anticipation for what may lie ahead provided a new sense of being. Im not sure that the injections would have an effect so soon. However, I did notice that I have been able to workout multiple days without the dreaded fatigue and flu-like symptoms that would follow even the easiest of workouts. My wife commented this week that Ive been less tired and moving around a lot more; my choices have seem to prove that there is a change going on. If I had to scale myself on feeling different for the better, then on a 1-10 scale, where 1 was where I was when I began. I'm at 3-4. Why still so low? Its been only a week, I dont know where it goes from here.

Physical Changes:
Nothing really. I am prone to breaking out, even after changing soaps. I also shave, trim, and/or wax most my hair on my body, so the increase in breakouts could be from either the above or even just increased workouts = increase sweating = increased breakouts. I'll wet sauna and see if that helps. So all in all no negative changes yet.

Sexual Changes:
I've noticed that by the end of the week that I've been waking up with morning wood. I'm not a walking horn ball but someone said it before on a post. When I see my wife naked in the morning shower or walking around topless/naked/or even in her hot yoga pants, I get that strong urge of wanting to have sex. The effect is immediate. We didn't have sex this week but I let her know that for the betterment of HRT science, we should up it to as much as I can get in a week. You know for the good of Science.

That's about it, and that's more than I expected from the first week. Many of you veterans may be just nodding your head and saying "yep, I remember that." I'm glad I've decided to start this adventure. I'll get before and after measurements, labs, etc... in a few weeks so we'll see what that shows. Cheers,Trey

 

[TarheelWill]

Awesome to hear bro. I'm so excited to get my low test worked out that I can barely stand it. I'm sure I'm gonna feel the same thing after my first inject. Just excited for what's to come(pun intended)

 

[Athens-M50]

We didn't have sex this week but I let her know that for the betterment of HRT science, we should up it to as much as I can get in a week. You know for the good of Science.

y

that made me laugh!....good one!

 

[ASUDevil]

TRT week 3

Gym: Every day 4:30 am, weights 4 days, Cardio 3 days. Weights have been going heavy.
Diet: Clean (chicken breast, fish, veggies)
Supplements: preworkout: Protein/BCAA/Preworkout Energy/ NO postworkout: protein/bcaa/carbohydrate
Magnesium, Berberine, B complex,
Effects: still the same but many differences. I noticed consistent elevation of mood, less foggy thinking, way more energy to finish tasks or begin and finish tasks. I'm always looking to do more stuff and I almost can't sit still, not in a bad way like ADD but always thinking of something new.

Physical Changes: All the exercise and eating healthy I've noticed definite increased definition in areas that I'm the thinnest. I've gained 5 lbs but lost some in the waist due to pants being looser, so I can only summize that that's muscle mass. A strange occurrence my wife noticed: I'm usually very reactive to allergies (Austin allergies are the worst BTW) and I usually get bad flu like symptoms when the counts are high and my wife is less reactive. She's noticed that I haven't complained about allergies, no allegra, and she's actually been affected by allergies; suggesting, even though they're so bad, I'm unaffected.

Negative Effects: only 1 really. I noticed that my joints bilateral at the elbow ached while i was lifting today. I'm taking .25mg e3d Anastrozole. I will cut that down to 1/week and also go lighter on the weights to allow the joints and tendons to get adequate healing.

Sexual Changes: for the love of science! So, i've been ever increasingly getting hornier!! So after chasing my wife around almost every night, she gave in, a couple times. My wife noted that I feel way more engorged, fuller, and harder then I have been in a long time. The best part is that I O'ed 2x and still after all said and done, I walked around with a 3/4 staffer waiting for the next shag. In the past, I'd go 0 to wrinkled turtle head by the time she decided to hop off me. So...I got that going for me. haha

All in all I'm feeling quite good. I go for new labs, body weight and measurements, etc... this Friday, so I'm curious to see what has changed.

Stay tuned,
Trey

 

[newtohrt]

My hat is off to you, man! I have been on HRT for almost a year now and my libido never came back.