Newcomer needing advice after bad 1st cycle

[Justoid]

Right guys need advice. Am 21, 6'5 and weigh 103kg. I started my first cycle ever of roids after been lifting for 3 years. I wasnt keen on injections so took a 9 week course of clen,cytomel and stanozolol. Anyway this did not do much for me so i have been recommended to a course of injectibles, i have cycle given to me by a friend and would like your guys expert opinion on it and what i can expect to gain and results i will see from it. Here it is;

week 1- sustanon mg/week 250- deca 100 mg/week
week 2- the amount for sustanon stays the same for all 8 weeks- deca 200 mg/week
" 3- deca 300 mg/week
" 4- deca 400 mg/week
" 5- deca 400 mg/week
" 6- deca 300 mg/week
" 7- deca 200 mg/week
" 8 - deca 100 mg/week

I would really appreciate and help and advice on this as i am a novice and although i have researched it well there is nothing like speaking from personal experience.
cheers guys

 

[Frankie xq]

for a first test cycle, why not just do 2 sustanons a week for ten weeks. no need to fluctuate up and down.

 

[E-Swift25]

Why do people still pyramid cycles? That's some old defuct theory. By the 10th week you're shut down, doing a lower dose isn't going to help you recover, you need to be off to do that.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I'd go with Sust only @ 500 mg/week for 10 weeks. Learn how you react to Test before stacking with Deca.

If you were to use Test & Deca together you would never know which one did what for you...... that goes for sides as well as positive aspects.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Oh and BTW......Welcome to Steroidology !!

 

[Justoid]

cheers for the replies guys, so what kind of results could i expect to see from using 500 of sus for 10 weeks/

 

[StoneColdNTO]

cheers for the replies guys, so what kind of results could i expect to see from using 500 of sus for 10 weeks/

That is really dependant on diet, training and rest........

If I was to hazard a guess, maybe 15 - 25 lbs.

 

[TxLonghorn]

I'd go with Sust only @ 500 mg/week for 10 weeks. Learn how you react to Test before stacking with Deca.

Good advice, stonecold.

 

[Justoid]

I appreciate the advice and knowledge from you guys. I tend to weight train three times a week with cardio 3 times also (rugby training) i have a good diet although i have to admit sometimes i do slip up a little with going out on the beers! So why not use the deca and sus together? would this be a bad idea? just seems ashame not to use and try it since i have it?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

So why not use the deca and sus together? would this be a bad idea? just seems ashame not to use and try it since i have it?

As I tried to say above, you do not know how you are going to react to either one right now.

If you get undesirable sides, say gyno for example, how would you know which one caused it, the Test or the Deca. One is Estrogen related and one is Progesterone related, and they require different treatments to alleviate the problem.

The same thing can be said about the positive aspects of a cycle, how would you know which one caused you to make the most gains, increase strength more, those thing a really benificial to know when planning future cycles.......and the only way you are going to be able to figure it out is to use one compound your first cycle, learn how you reacted to it, then stack another compound with it on your next cycle.

Hope that makes sense for you........??

 

[Justoid]

I think i might take your advice and just go for the sus for ten weeks. do deca and sus show up in a piss test? cheers guys

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I think i might take your advice and just go for the sus for ten weeks. do deca and sus show up in a piss test? cheers guys

Most tests are for "rec" drugs........it is quite expensive to test for steroids. What are you getting tested for ?

 

[Justoid]

just a drugs test for rugby bro. random testing. its just a piss test usually

 

[That-Guy]

like stone said steroid test's are very pricey.... so you should be fine...

hope your cycle goes well..... Train Hard - Grow Big

T-G

 

[panteracfh]

do they test for steroids without telling you on teams like that??

 

[Drveejay11]

Stonecold = stud!

 

[twoman2000]

Make sure you eat at least 5000 calorie a day, when on the stuff. My first cycle, i did sust 500 an deca 400 per week. I wish i had stonecold advice on trying one tyeof steroid first cause i began to get painful, really painful nipples, to the point where i couldn't lay on my stomach. Didn't know what caused it either sust or deca. It sounds like great advice, i know that your thinking, well the more the better and stack it will get huge results, yeah it will but take safety into consideration and know which one works best. Right now i'm on a cycle and only using sustenon at 1000mg per week and then will add more prop. I'll see how i do off only test. Should of done it a while ago.