I will be starting my first cycle of hdrol next week and have been doing alot of research on serms / pcts? Whats the difference between liquid tamox (nolvadex) and letro which is a ai? Should i have both on hand? Should i take the nolva and the letro? Im not really certain what to take for my pct? Please help? Thnks
Nolva compared to letro
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mich29
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nova is for pct.
letro is for gyno issues only or you can use it if you want to keep water weight down while on cycle or if you are prone to gyno or are gettin gyno signs.
apples and oranges...they are both fruit but different in every way 
haha, no it's as he said yeah Letro is a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and it permanently attaches to the Aromitase enzyme, this is used to treat gyno.
Nolva is a SERM Selective Estrogen receptor molecule, this bonds to the site that estrogen bonds to (think of two guys trying to get a girl and the SERM is a million times sexy-er than the E-molecule.) and wins the battle. and it is known to increase testosterone pct by a substantial margin (hence it's popularity as a PCT drug (it stimulates LH a FSH).
think of it this way
Estro control= Letro
PCT recovery= Nolva/clomid (less popular though, clomid)
haha, no it's as he said yeah Letro is a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and it permanently attaches to the Aromitase enzyme, this is used to treat gyno.
Nolva is a SERM Selective Estrogen receptor molecule, this bonds to the site that estrogen bonds to (think of two guys trying to get a girl and the SERM is a million times sexy-er than the E-molecule.) and wins the battle. and it is known to increase testosterone pct by a substantial margin (hence it's popularity as a PCT drug (it stimulates LH a FSH).
think of it this way
Estro control= Letro
PCT recovery= Nolva/clomid (less popular though, clomid)
mich29
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yes novla for pct and have letro on hand in case of gyno issues or while on cycle if you know you are prone to gyno
traviswyliedime
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you can use letro but be careful with that stuff because it will destroy estrogen. you can either use letro or exemestane for your Aromatase inhibitor (AI). lets us know how it goes!
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I have tried Hdrol 2 times and I have never had a gyno prob, nor have I known anyone who has. I used liquid Nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) and all went smoothly. The only prob I had is when I'm on Hdrol my left testicle gets inflamed. I haven't used in a while tho, because of this problem. At first I didn't connect the testicle prob with Hdrol because I have never read anything on this, but the second time I used it, it happened again. So let us know how it goes.
fifth day of hdrol...fist four at 25 mg s and when i bumped to 50 got severe headaches....so backed it to 25 mg again and headaches gone. and yes im drinking plenty of water and diet ok plus support supps...kinda nervous to bump it back to 50 again...not sure if i should run the cycle out or stop it early
AGAIN HDROL DOES NOT AROMATIZE!!!!!!!!!!
DO NOT, AND I REPEAT DO NOT USE AN Aromatase inhibitor (AI) WITH IT, UNLESS YOU WANT A HORRIBLE HDL PROFILE
THE FEMARA ADVICE IS AWFUL AND THAT POST SHOULD BE DELETED
MICH ARE YOU OBSESSED WITH THE STUFF???? YOU EITHER ARE TALKING BOUT STUFF YOU HAVE NEVER RUN, OR HAVE RUN STUFF ASS BACKWARDS, YOUR ADVICE IS CONSISTANTLY AWFUL!!!! ARE YOU STILL 130LBS???
its will crush e2, ontop of the fact that a non aromatizing anabolic there is no issues, so all using it will do is inflict some serious sides
-low-no libido
-joint problems
-hormonal imbalance
-horrible hdl
ah but you knew that before you told the op, who knows very little it seems from all his posts,that he could use fkn letro as an ai
thats idiotic.....if you are ever going to use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle when e2 is an issue, EXEMESTANE all the way, or even arimedex, and save the letro when you have fkn gyno, which is an impossibility with hdrol or any clone
DO NOT, AND I REPEAT DO NOT USE AN Aromatase inhibitor (AI) WITH IT, UNLESS YOU WANT A HORRIBLE HDL PROFILE
THE FEMARA ADVICE IS AWFUL AND THAT POST SHOULD BE DELETED
MICH ARE YOU OBSESSED WITH THE STUFF???? YOU EITHER ARE TALKING BOUT STUFF YOU HAVE NEVER RUN, OR HAVE RUN STUFF ASS BACKWARDS, YOUR ADVICE IS CONSISTANTLY AWFUL!!!! ARE YOU STILL 130LBS???
its will crush e2, ontop of the fact that a non aromatizing anabolic there is no issues, so all using it will do is inflict some serious sides
-low-no libido
-joint problems
-hormonal imbalance
-horrible hdl
ah but you knew that before you told the op, who knows very little it seems from all his posts,that he could use fkn letro as an ai
thats idiotic.....if you are ever going to use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle when e2 is an issue, EXEMESTANE all the way, or even arimedex, and save the letro when you have fkn gyno, which is an impossibility with hdrol or any clone
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thats all you need....next time buy toremifene tho, you'll like it alot better.....nolva isnt great for the libido and is more heptoxic than torem
good luck
also, stay at 50mg minimum or else you are wasting your time (hdrol), 75mg much better, really even 50 is a waste.....take the pills with food, and up your carbs, itll help with the sides that are bothering you
Walnutz
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No torem dosages are different than tamox.
Walnutz
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excellent advice
Bikeswimlive
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^^^^This
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