Nolva on cycle

[atali]

Just want to clearify once and for all:does nolva hinder ANY gains during a cycle? ive heard alot of different oppinions and it really confuses me.
im on my last 5 weeks of tren/prop and i want to get all humanly possible out of it,but i also have lumps under my nips the size of the tip of my lil finger. im pretty sure they wont get any worse than they allready are and figured i will hit nolva hard during post cycle therapy (pct) and maybe it will go away.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Just want to clearify once and for all:does nolva hinder ANY gains during a cycle?

No....not noticable, if at all.

 

[berealjohn]

Bro you should seriously consider hitting the nolva before. That don't sound good, if you start producing prolactin you a F'd, beast milk follows! Yes nolve will slow gains, but the gains you make with the nolve in cycle a solid and easily retained. Let me reword the solowing gain. The gains that nolva slows is water gains from the estrogen.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Yes nolve will slow gains,

Please explain how that is possible as Nolva does not reduce overall estrogen, it only stops it from attaching to certain receptor sites.

 

[DocJ]

I've never noticed slower gains with nolvadex during cycles. However, I've had a few training partners over the years that swear it hinders theirs while on cycle. Personally, I believe they were just holding less water with the nolva but I think this is another one of those "effects everyone different" things...

 

[berealjohn]

The gains are water that you will loss anyway at cycles end. While holding water I am able to swing the big wheels because increase leverage. Hence from the strenght increases greater mass develops for myself. I do alway use nolve in cycle about 5 mg eod though. I do not wis to get any bigger nor want all that edmea & high blood pressure.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

The gains are water that you will loss anyway at cycles end. While holding water I am able to swing the big wheels because increase leverage. Hence from the strenght increases greater mass develops for myself. I do alway use nolve in cycle about 5 mg eod though. I do not wis to get any bigger nor want all that edmea & high blood pressure.

True if using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), but Nolva is a SERM and therefore does not reduce water retention.

 

[atali]

hmmm...maybe i should play it safe and start right away.

 

[berealjohn]

All can say is I have use A-Dex, I didn't like it, lipids went out the top. IMHO when nolva attaches to estrogen, the lock and key effect is broken. The estrogen can not attach to receptor targets and is eliminated though feces. Another reason I did not like Aromatase inhibitor (AI) I can more effectively control estrogen retention with the nolve by > or < dosage. 10mg ED toastes my joints! I like some estrogen in system, it lubes my old ass joints.

 

[DADAWG]

Please explain how that is possible as Nolva does not reduce overall estrogen, it only stops it from attaching to certain receptor sites.
No....not noticable, if at all.
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listen to him fellas anyone that old must be wise

all kidding aside hes right as usual , nolva will do either zero or next to zero when it comes to water weight and gains .

 

[atali]

ok thanks bros..

 

[berealjohn]

If nolva does not reduce water retention, how can one explain then when I am 5-6 week in Test/Dec 2:1 ratio. and hit 10 mg of nolva ED a drop 6 lbs in two days? This is fact that happen with my last cycle. After a week of 10mg ED I dropped back to 5mg EOD. BW edged up and couple more lbs the duration of cycle. I am 54 days post cycle therapy (pct) now and only dropped a couple of LBs. I have to believe my gain whilst on nolva were solid. Atali take those lumps seroius brotha. Please don't mess around. I think if your feel a knot behund the nippler the size of a BB you should start nolva, gains or no gains! IMHO

 

[DADAWG]

If nolva does not reduce water retention, how can one explain then when I am 5-6 week in Test/Dec 2:1 ratio. and hit 10 mg of nolva ED a drop 6 lbs in two days? This is fact that happen with my last cycle. After a week of 10mg ED I dropped back to 5mg EOD. BW edged up and couple more lbs the duration of cycle. I am 54 days post cycle therapy (pct) now and only dropped a couple of LBs. I have to believe my gain whilst on nolva were solid. Atali take those lumps seroius brotha. Please don't mess around. I think if your feel a knot behund the nippler the size of a BB you should start nolva, gains or no gains! IMHO

its just coincidence . nolva blocks the estrogen from breast tissue , it doesnt stop test from aromatizeing into estrogen .
or you could just be a lucky rascal

 

[Nole988]

quick question....i just got this Tamoxifen Citrate USP 20mg peppermint oral shit....and i was wonderin how much do i take of it and when and with what, i have no idea really instruction wise...

 

[Vegas]

quick question....i just got this Tamoxifen Citrate USP 20mg peppermint oral shit....and i was wonderin how much do i take of it and when and with what, i have no idea really instruction wise...

Depends what type of cycle you are running, what compounds you are using, what purpose you are using the tamoxifen/nolva for, etc.? I would start a new thread with the answers to those questions and then we can help you.