What we All know And myself being one of the retarded is, if they have it there going to do it, I think we all personally need to feel some remorse and sympathy for him, yes he Fuck himself up, but in the end he will learn, I do agree it isn't time for him to tAke the velchro shoes off and the helmet but, my first cycle At 22 was tren ace And test e, lol Jesus tren rode me like sea biscut.. Idk but without ythrashin I prolly would be dead, granted i bought anabolics 09 and 10 and read alot on here and googles till my dick got hard... But in the end he will do it.. Might as well point him to pct, Serms, and diet forum and all the other good shit