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So I'm a new to the forum. But long time lurker...

I'm 5'11 and around 170 pds. I just finally recently going back to the gym. I've been an on and off member to the gym for about 3 years now. But I'm committed to gettin my act together and hopeflly by may-june I'll be where I wanna be. Hopefully around 190-200 pds. and JACKED. But I'm definitly goin to need your guys help and advice.

I once went to see a trainer and he made up a schedule. it went something like....

mon- legs
tues- back and bi's
weds- rest
thurs- chest and tri's
fri- shoulders

- well that was over a year ago and I don't even have my set schedule and workout routines anymore. So I'm looking for a new one... if anyone can help me out with that.
- I used to take creatine before every workout to increase my strength and give me energy...but I've learned from experience that it's just a waste cause it bloated up my face,held too much water and for many other reason's. What's a good pre workout supplement?
- For an after workout supplement I basically just drink a whey protein shake.
- Considering I'm pretty skinny and have no fore-arm whatsoever I need a better diet and to start eating like a pig. but I really don't want a gut by may-june cause that's where it seems to all go when I do eat alot.

I need advice in getting my act together. What do you all suggest?

-btw i'm 21
 
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Well I suppose your body is very sensitive to creatine.

Anyway, there are 2 ways to take creatine.

One was is called Loading. You take 20-30grams of creatine for 4 days to a week, afterwords, you take between 5-15 grams each day. Creatine is shown to work much better when taken with dextrose(glucose) and 1/2 hour before training.

As for post workout supplement u may want to look into, check into Glutamine. Supplementing with glutamine will prevent your muscles from catabolizing themselves and also increases the rate of protein synthesis. Therefore you recover quicker and lose less muscle mass doing so.

If you want to look at a very well maintained, and reliable website. I'll post a URL for creatine and one for glutamine. There are also several other enhancements u way want to look into, incluing DHEA.

creatine: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/creatine.html

glutamine : http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/glutamine.html

DHEA : http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dhea.html
 
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Paladin said:
Well I suppose your body is very sensitive to creatine.

Anyway, there are 2 ways to take creatine.

One was is called Loading. You take 20-30grams of creatine for 4 days to a week, afterwords, you take between 5-15 grams each day. Creatine is shown to work much better when taken with dextrose(glucose) and 1/2 hour before training.

As for post workout supplement u may want to look into, check into Glutamine. Supplementing with glutamine will prevent your muscles from catabolizing themselves and also increases the rate of protein synthesis. Therefore you recover quicker and lose less muscle mass doing so.

If you want to look at a very well maintained, and reliable website. I'll post a URL for creatine and one for glutamine. There are also several other enhancements u way want to look into, incluing DHEA.

creatine: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/creatine.html

glutamine : http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/glutamine.html

DHEA : http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dhea.html
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I don't want to get myself back on creatine. I just don't like it. Once you stop taking it you lose most of what you gain.
 
Goodfella said:
I don't want to get myself back on creatine. I just don't like it. Once you stop taking it you lose most of what you gain.
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You don't lose muscle when you get off of creatine, it's water weight. If you mantain a good diet, sleep and training program you won't loose muscle.
 
I just researched and Creatine should be taken in cycles.

Load up like I explained for first week, and then continue on a 5-15gram/day dosage for 6 weeks. Get off it for 2 weeks, and repeat.
 
Not to mess up youre question Goodfella. but i have to say something :)

U dont need to cycle Creatine, but if u choose to do, then stay of for as long time as u stay on, not only 2 weeks, that wont help u anywhere.
 
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Not to mess up youre question Goodfella. but i have to say something :)

U dont need to cycle Creatine, but if u choose to do, then stay of for as long time as u stay on, not only 2 weeks, that wont help u anywhere.
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Like I said I don't think I'll be going back to creatine... I don;t know how this thread ended up all about creatine... i'm more into my training part hense i posted in the training forum. :confused:
 
it doesn't have to be cycled, but stopping for 2 weeks(after 7 weeks of intake[1 loading week, 6 followed reg dosage]) and then starting another loading phase followed by continues intake DOES help a lot of people, especially the ones toying with the idea.

anyway, let's get back to his reg question, he doesn't want creatine so let it be.

DIET is a major factor, so you have to be sure you're eating the right foods. Lot's of fruits and veggies for amino acids and the like.

Protein shakes are a plus, I prefer whey protein over soy but they have a new synthesized form of protein or somethin thats like supposed to be 2x the effectiveness as egg protein, egg and soy proteins. i'll try and get the name of it and post it if you're interested.

I don't know about everyone else but I like to take a multi-vitamin once a day. Tuna, Eggs, fish, beef are all good sources of protein. try to get 1-1.5grams of protein per pound of body fat. Some people will tell you 2 grams per body fat but try to get at least 1-1.5

a lot of this is diet.. but surely some other people will post more on the training??? since this is the training forum???

check out the 5x5 thread definately. there's a great way to work out..
 
If your just looking for a cookie-cutter type routine you could take a look here: http://www.johnberardi.com/updates/june212002/na_hockeytraining.htm

When I started out this type of thing helped me get an idea of how to design my own routines. I saw great strength increases using that series while also dieting down. Honestly, to get the most out of your workouts your gonna need to learn as much as possible about different tecniques and methodology. It's not as simple as a static workout plan.
 
ok Thanx for the help... I've put all the advice into good use. And you fockers convinced me to go back on creatine. I just hope it won't make my face look bloated like it once did. I also know it's all water weight but it's water in the muscles and I hate to loose that when I stop takin it... ya know? and I have one more question - What is the best creatine product out there? maybe even one that would have glutamine in it?
 
creatine doesnt need to be cycled but it's put to best use when it is. And yes, use it with dextrose(glucose) if u can. Take creatine 1/2 hour before workout and glutamine 1/2 after.
 
use glutamine if you can too for the extra protein synthesis aspect

it will prob show up on bottles as L-glutamine.

get the glutamines that are like 3-5grams per tab
 
Paladin said:
use glutamine if you can too for the extra protein synthesis aspect

it will prob show up on bottles as L-glutamine.

get the glutamines that are like 3-5grams per tab
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I usually have a protein shake after my workout that say's it has just about 3-5grams of glutamine. Would that be fine? or should I just but some?
 
you want to get 10 grams of glutamine post work out, you may want to buy some dude. if u get the 3gram tabs like I have, then just take 2 tabs post work out with your shake and u'll be set.

also, DONT GET FORCED INTO USING SOMETHING. if you've had bad experiences, dont be pressured back into them nless ur sure u really want to try it again. be a little more careful, if u start bloating again then reduce ur intake by 3-5 grams
 
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