Normal Test Levels-No Cycle

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I had to have some blood work done, and I asked the doctor to check my test levels at the same time. I'm just curious as to what a normal level for someone who's not on cycle (never have done one).
 
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The range depends on the lab and is roughly around 250-800ish. Do not accept, "You are within range" from your doctor. Ask to see the actual lab. It's best to see men in the upper third of the range. However, you may have a good total testosterone number but if your doctor doesn't check free testosterone, you may still exhibit symptoms of low t if your free testosterone is in the tank.
 
My Test levels were 7 and free test of 170 naturally, androgen index of 29 (low)
i carry excess fat, water retention, no body hair and i have hypothyroidism
I see hardly any results in the gym for muscle-gain, but my strength goes up very slowly

I started a first cycle of EQ/Winny/Primo and my Levels went upto 22, 700 free test and 200 androgen index (still pretty low considering i am on a cycle)
Not sure what they are now, but after running PCT nolvadex i hope they are higher!!

Doctor told me 7.0 and 170 is "through the roof".. Stupid doctors theses days.
Make sure you come on this thread after you get your results and post them up.

IF your test levels are low, make sure to book a appointment with HRT doctor (not sure of the name because i never went to see one) within the first week.. this way you don't have to get another blood test hopefully.

I wish you the best buddy, i really do.
 
austniceguy said:
My Test levels were 7 and free test of 170 naturally, androgen index of 29 (low)
i carry excess fat, water retention, no body hair and i have hypothyroidism
I see hardly any results in the gym for muscle-gain, but my strength goes up very slowly

I started a first cycle of EQ/Winny/Primo and my Levels went upto 22, 700 free test and 200 androgen index (still pretty low considering i am on a cycle)
Not sure what they are now, but after running PCT nolvadex i hope they are higher!!

Doctor told me 7.0 and 170 is "through the roof".. Stupid doctors theses days.
Make sure you come on this thread after you get your results and post them up.

IF your test levels are low, make sure to book a appointment with HRT doctor (not sure of the name because i never went to see one) within the first week.. this way you don't have to get another blood test hopefully.

I wish you the best buddy, i really do.
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if your test levels are low why the hell would you runa cycle WITH OUT TEST in it?!?!?
 
The doc was slightly hesitant to do it. I had a physical and he actually asked if I had done, or if I was on any sort of aas. I replied with No, and in the same breath asked if he'd check my test with the rest of my blood work. He gave me a really funny look, but agreed. I just had the test yesterday, so it'll be a little while before I get any results.

I'm 33 years old, I lift regularly, and really don't have any signs of low test. But I want a baseline for the future, and if I do decide to do a cycle or two. If it comes back low, then I'll definitely be considering doing a cycle. But I'm a lot of research away from doing that, I don't feel comfortable in my knowledge yet. Shit, I wouldn't even know where to get test from yet.
 
Your doing the right thing man, Your at a good age to start too (not trying to push you into it).

Doctors are terrible these days.. He shouldn't feel hesitant at all to do it.. its your choice and you want to get your health checked.. (No doctor should refuse anything like that).
I seriously think there needs to be a Law which doctors have to carryout any tests that a patient wants to know about his health.
I would take doctors to court and sue them if i could, most of them are so arrogant, augmentative and ignorant because they think they know everything because they went to a medical school.. Half the people on this Forum are smarter then doctors..
When it comes to Steroids anyway ;) Which is why i love this forum so much.

When i was younger, i had allopecia and i didn't go to school because of it.. when the doctor was giving me injections in my head..
He did about 10/18 injections.. Soft and nice
Then he asked and i told him that i quit work and left school because of my allopecia (I was only 16) and he started getting really nasty with the injections.
I still to this day have a really sore lump from which he injected to hard into my scalp.

I was a kid, and my whole head had patches of missing hair.. i looked like a leopard and he got pissed off because i didn't work or go to school because of it so he started making the injections really hurt me.

I also had to get a tooth pulled out from a dentist without any Anesthetic and i told them to stop and they kept going.. I was actually screaming and squeezing the chair
I wish i was the dentist so i could show them how much that hurt.
I had gas.. but it didn't help at all


Also, your probably best bet is to ask around at your gym for gear.
There is always cops at the gym, so don't talk to loud and make sure no-one is listening.. I got this one-guy who comes up-to me and starts saying he wants to run Sust/Tren/Deca loud as f**k.. i have to tell him to be quite every singletime.. (hes been saying he wants to get on gear for 3months.... Wannabe)
 
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Yeah, I don't know if I'd just roll up to someone in the gym and say "hey dude, where can I score some roids"! There are definitely a lot of guys walking around there that are on or have been on cycles, but I couldn't just come out and say that. I think the doctor acted funny because he assumed I was thinking about using, but really I want it for a baseline. If it's good, that's awesome, if it's low I want to do something about it.
 
Thats some funny shit! IMO, most guys would feel decent to good btwn 800-1000. Now this is where so many people differ, for instance, my younger brother, 28, just got labs back. NEVER touched a thing in his life. Played pro baseball for two years, first drink of alcohol this past April...... He's running 1590. Girlfriend says he fucks like an ape. Motor never dies! Guess the kid got his big bros genes! Lol:cum:
 
1590 holy cow. I would think he'd be over 170 but wow. That is like a mild cycle level or something lol or an adult bullshark level.
 
CHIP WADOWSKI said:
Thats some funny shit! IMO, most guys would feel decent to good btwn 800-1000. Now this is where so many people differ, for instance, my younger brother, 28, just got labs back. NEVER touched a thing in his life. Played pro baseball for two years, first drink of alcohol this past April...... He's running 1590. Girlfriend says he fucks like an ape. Motor never dies! Guess the kid got his big bros genes! Lol:cum:
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The way I feel most of the time I fully expect it to come back somewhere around 1000. I don't drink, smoke, never did any drugs ever. I lift 5 days a week, and am in decent shape. Not shredded or huge, but certainly not a slob either. But I generally feel good all the time-stupid high sex drive, etc. I haven't heard the results yet, how long does that shit usually take?
 
IMHO all Endocrinologist need to be retrained and re-educated on trt!!!!or at least the colleges and universities should offer a total program based only on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and hrt...
 
austniceguy said:
I thought it would be smart to be a stooge and have a "safe" cycle without Test.

Well little did i know!
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but even if you had high test levels they would shut down when on steroids regardless if you used test or not.
thats why we REC test in all cycles so atleast your replacing whats not being made.
just healther, nvm the extra gains.
 
austniceguy said:
Your doing the right thing man, Your at a good age to start too (not trying to push you into it).

Doctors are terrible these days.. He shouldn't feel hesitant at all to do it.. its your choice and you want to get your health checked.. (No doctor should refuse anything like that).
I seriously think there needs to be a Law which doctors have to carryout any tests that a patient wants to know about his health.
I would take doctors to court and sue them if i could, most of them are so arrogant, augmentative and ignorant because they think they know everything because they went to a medical school.. Half the people on this Forum are smarter then doctors..
When it comes to Steroids anyway ;) Which is why i love this forum so much.

When i was younger, i had allopecia and i didn't go to school because of it.. when the doctor was giving me injections in my head..
He did about 10/18 injections.. Soft and nice
Then he asked and i told him that i quit work and left school because of my allopecia (I was only 16) and he started getting really nasty with the injections.
I still to this day have a really sore lump from which he injected to hard into my scalp.

I was a kid, and my whole head had patches of missing hair.. i looked like a leopard and he got pissed off because i didn't work or go to school because of it so he started making the injections really hurt me.

I also had to get a tooth pulled out from a dentist without any Anesthetic and i told them to stop and they kept going.. I was actually screaming and squeezing the chair
I wish i was the dentist so i could show them how much that hurt.
I had gas.. but it didn't help at all


Also, your probably best bet is to ask around at your gym for gear.
There is always cops at the gym, so don't talk to loud and make sure no-one is listening.. I got this one-guy who comes up-to me and starts saying he wants to run Sust/Tren/Deca loud as f**k.. i have to tell him to be quite every singletime.. (hes been saying he wants to get on gear for 3months.... Wannabe)
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if you want to pay 9X more then you should....
 
biggest ragu said:
You smoke a lot of weed? Doesn't that shit lower your levels?
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i think it doeas but not much, I mean if your a HEAVY smoker then well your more likely to eat alot more food and lot more SHIT food wich i think would effect your T levels more.

could be wrong though.

I use Medical MJ and feel fine but im on HRT so that would not effect that.
 
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