Not gaining on 350mg/week Testosterone

[newbiedude85]

Hi guys,

I need help with my cycle. Im 180lbs 5'8" around 13% bodyfat. This is my 2nd cycle, im currently on week 4 on test e/ testoviron (legit gear) at 350mg a week. 1st cycle was the same dosage except is was prop and i gained around 20lbs and kept all of it.

My diet is around 3200 - 3400 calories, 260g of protein.

I havent seen hardly any strength gains so far and ive only gained 5lbs. Oh also, im taking 0.25mg of arimidex every other day.

What the hell am i doing wrong? I expected to be increasing in strength and weight by now. is 350mg not cutting it anymore? Your input is MUCH appreciated.

Thanks guys

 

[thatotherguy]

Take 500 plus a week of test.

 

[newbiedude85]

Ok im prepared to do that, but im trying to determine what the problem is for sure. Cause wouldnt i see at least something from this dose after 4 weeks? My first cycle was 5 months ago, maybe something to do with my receptors?

 

[park]

1st. Youre at 4 weeks test e is just starting to kick in or will in a another week or two. Prop is a fast ester and will hit much faster(some guys feel it in a couple days).
2nd. Youre going to need the dose up a bit 500mg a week would be good.
3rd. Alot of ppl I know including me have really good gains on your first cycle. Not saying you wont have good cycles but you will need more gear.

Hope I helped at all.

 

[Zeek]

Up the calories!

 

[newbiedude85]

Up the calories!

Calories are fine, if i increase anymore i start gaining too much fat. I know im in calorie surplus, cause i AM gaining weight each week (1lb, most of which has been fat so far).. but not AAS type gains. Seems like dose is the problem...

 

[Teutonic]

1 st cycle is alway s the best.

Overtrainng ? Focus on compound movements..train like a powerlifter..

Resting ?

Give it 2 more weeks.

 

[LANDSCAPE1]

The test hasnt even kicked in yet. . Wait till 8 weeks in to evaluate.
How long did u run the Prop?

 

[newbiedude85]

1 st cycle is alway s the best.

Overtrainng ? Focus on compound movements..train like a powerlifter..

Resting ?

Give it 2 more weeks.

I train HIT style no more than 8 reps on first working set, with a drop set on the last set of each exercise. I always start with compound movements, chest-tris = bench press, legs = squats, shoulders= military press, back-bis= weighted chinups

 

[newbiedude85]

The test hasnt even kicked in yet. . Wait till 8 weeks in to evaluate.
How long did u run the Prop?

Prop was awesome, i saw gains in strength and weight in the first week. i ran it for 8 weeks. No bloat so no anti-e, with test-e i bloated like a mofo in the first week. I kept all gains from first cycle including strength, gained few lbs of fat in pct.

Im going to increase to 450mg and see what happens i guess.

 

[juiced6918]

Hi guys,

I need help with my cycle. Im 180lbs 5'8" around 13% bodyfat. This is my 2nd cycle, im currently on week 4 on test e/ testoviron (legit gear) at 350mg a week. 1st cycle was the same dosage except is was prop and i gained around 20lbs and kept all of it.

My diet is around 3200 - 3400 calories, 260g of protein.

I havent seen hardly any strength gains so far and ive only gained 5lbs. Oh also, im taking 0.25mg of arimidex every other day.

What the hell am i doing wrong? I expected to be increasing in strength and weight by now. is 350mg not cutting it anymore? Your input is MUCH appreciated.

Thanks guys

Up the dosage of test to at least 500mg, drop the arimidex not needed at that dosage and will hold back gains estrogen increases strength, sex drive, and muscle gains only use an anti-e when needed and only then! Enathate takes about five weeks to start showing serious gains which is why I like sus when bulking it has a blend of fast and slow acting esters. Good Luck

 

[newbiedude85]

Up the dosage of test to at least 500mg, drop the arimidex not needed at that dosage and will hold back gains estrogen increases strength, sex drive, and muscle gains only use an anti-e when needed and only then! Enathate takes about five weeks to start showing serious gains which is why I like sus when bulking it has a blend of fast and slow acting esters. Good Luck

Sounds good man, only thing is i need to keep arimidex. After the first few shots i bloated REALLY bad and was flushed in the neck and face 24/7 thats why i started arimidex which solved that problem. Btw has anyone else experienced this??? Never had this issue with prop.
You guys think arimidex is preventing strength and weight gain?

 

[MattPorter]

Sounds good man, only thing is i need to keep arimidex. After the first few shots i bloated REALLY bad and was flushed in the neck and face 24/7 thats why i started arimidex which solved that problem. Btw has anyone else experienced this??? Never had this issue with prop.
You guys think arimidex is preventing strength and weight gain?

You cannot expect to keep gaining 20 lbs per cycle off the same dose....WONT happen or everyone would be 250 on 400mg....

You might need to try 400-500....switch nutriion up, training etc... maybe NOT use an anti-e but DHT instead to counter estrogen

 

[LANDSCAPE1]

Sounds good man, only thing is i need to keep arimidex. After the first few shots i bloated REALLY bad and was flushed in the neck and face 24/7 thats why i started arimidex which solved that problem. Btw has anyone else experienced this??? Never had this issue with prop.
You guys think arimidex is preventing strength and weight gain?

Flush as in turning purplish ?? . . Check the bp during man. . When guys look like Barney the dinosour, their bp is threw the roof

 

[UserAt204]

Adex won't cut gains drastically that crap. If you can't gain increase cals. If you just mean not gaining fast enough then this isn't for you. 20lbs is huge gains and first cycles can be like that but they won't continue to be like that.

1 lb a week is good. Test E starts producing good gains around week 5. Increase the length of the cycle to 12-14 weeks.

Bloating is due to water intake, diet, then estro. If you are bloating that much that fast it's diet or water intake

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

also dont forget to account for ester weight. since its a longer ester you get less raw T mg for mg.

so at 350 test E your test levels are actually lower than they were on your last cycle of prop @ 350

 

[UserAt204]

^^^. Yessir