Not Running a AI same as F***ING W**** without protection

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DoYouEvenLift92

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So i maybe be just a newbie to these forums but ive been reading my ass off since ive joined, id say ive looked into a decent amount of info. im thinking in the next few months to run a cycle. although i know theres always alot more to learn, i am quite happy with the users on this site and the quality of their answers to many peoples troubling questions. but the scariest thing i have seen on here or learned about at all is gyno!! basically it seem like to me that if you going to do a cylce make sure you are running a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) next to it. Why take the risk right?? nobody wants gyno. Not running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is alot like Taking a dive in the deep end of a dirty pool without wearing a rain coat hopeing you swim out just fine :molepoke: if you know what i mean! doesnt sound to safe to me !!

So i am building all the precautions and getting my gear together to make sure i am very prepared and have a successful first cycle. i just recently ordered nolvadex and now i am looking for a Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I'm leading more towards letro because of its potency and the good things ive seen on the forums about it, the only thing i am not sure of yet and would like some help on is how should i dose it though out my cycle.

Cycle one Test Prop , and possibly Winstrol (winny) not to sure yet ( Doesnt sound like an ideal AaS to be taking)

week 1 - 8 Test prop pinning Eod @ 100mg which would average out 350mg per week
week 4 - 8 Winstrol (winny) 50mg ed 350mg per week
Week 1 - 8 letro
week 10 - 12 40mg ed nolva
week 12 - 14 20mg ed nolva

the only reason i am thinking about Winstrol (winny) is because already have some bought and payed for..
Questions??
What Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should i run?
What Dose of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should i be taking?
Since i will be using test prop and it has a short half life can i start my PCT 2 days after my last prop pin?
How does my overall cycle look?

Please leave any suggestions good or bad Thanks much Appreciated:)
 
If you ask my idea you dont letro for that cycle , but if you wish to experience by yourself make that cycle and see it by yourself.
First cycle Winstrol (winny) ? no way ...
Why you do prop and Winstrol (winny) , i think you need to lose fat if you choose that type of cycle, than study on your diet and training routine
Are you sure that you can do 10 shots per week ? that is a lot of PIP and muscle pain.
You want my advise? some cycles look fancy on paper when you design but in real life they are not effective and benefitial to run...
So post some stats and lets talk what you should do ...
 
Dr.Phoenix said:
If you ask my idea you dont letro for that cycle , but if you wish to experience by yourself make that cycle and see it by yourself.
First cycle Winstrol (winny) ? no way ...
Why you do prop and Winstrol (winny) , i think you need to lose fat if you choose that type of cycle, than study on your diet and training routine
Are you sure that you can do 10 shots per week ? that is a lot of PIP and muscle pain.
You want my advise? some cycles look fancy on paper when you design but in real life they are not effective and benefitial to run...
So post some stats and lets talk what you should do ...
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well im 175lbs with 10 percent body fat, so no i dont want to lose weight , i was looking at the test to gain some and just 4 week Winstrol (winny) to really cut it all up and look ripped after words ?? am i totally off track??
 
You cannot find a person who will say Yes to Winstrol (winny) on 1 st cycle, If you are 175 with 10 % you need to grow
How old are you ? how many years you are training for ?
If you can , post a picture of yourself , lets see what we are dealing with, than you will have good info .
 
You dont look bad , its kinda early for AAS friend , you have 2 good years as natural, i dont want to kill your spirit but thats the truth.
Right now answer 1 question , Are you 100% decided to use gear ?If you didnt got obsesed by gear continue training and study natural ways of bodybuilding
i mean after my advise if you will say: Fuck it , i am going to do it anyway !
than better say it right now, than doing some stupid shit by yourself , do you understand what i mean?
Youngbloods like you sometimes can be very stubborn :)
 
prop and Winstrol (winny) are two of the most painful injections you can have and they both have to be pinned eod. go with a longer ester like test enathate or cyp till you get familiar with pinning yourself. also agree with letro being too strong for 1st cycle arimidex or aromasin will work fine
 
bigkit34 said:
prop and Winstrol (winny) are two of the most painful injections you can have and they both have to be pinned eod. go with a longer ester like test enathate or cyp till you get familiar with pinning yourself. also agree with letro being too strong for 1st cycle arimidex or aromasin will work fine
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This is very good advice right here. (If you are going to run AAS) You don't even know what it is to pin yourself yet, and you gunna do it EOD? You would be surprised how many people stare at that needle for an Hr. before they get the courage to put it in.
Not calling you a pussy, just want you to know this. Do a longer ester and you will only have to pin 2x a week.

I still do think you can go another couple of yrs without it. You have a decent base to work with now.
 
Dr.Phoenix said:
You dont look bad , its kinda early for AAS friend , you have 2 good years as natural, i dont want to kill your spirit but thats the truth.
Right now answer 1 question , Are you 100% decided to use gear ?If you didnt got obsesed by gear continue training and study natural ways of bodybuilding
i mean after my advise if you will say: Fuck it , i am going to do it anyway !
than better say it right now, than doing some stupid shit by yourself , do you understand what i mean?
Youngbloods like you sometimes can be very stubborn :)
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i really understand your point, but i have kind of gotten obsessed with getting into some gear unfortionaly, i have actually helled off off it now for 2 years seeing as my old workout partner got on it 2 years ago . but its came around again that i am looking at it , and i am open to suggestions at my size what i should be doing to do it properly
 
bigkit34 said:
prop and Winstrol (winny) are two of the most painful injections you can have and they both have to be pinned eod. go with a longer ester like test enathate or cyp till you get familiar with pinning yourself. also agree with letro being too strong for 1st cycle arimidex or aromasin will work fine
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my Winstrol (winny) is orals sorry i didnt mention that in my post .. but as for prop i did already think about this an your right i should get fimiliar with pinning first , so which of the tests would you recommend to be better for a first timer C, or E
 
OK than ,
As always you should go with basics,
Test Enanthate 500 mg / 1 ml each on Monday and Thursday for 14 Weeks long
I remember that you wish to cut in the end, you meant like solidify the gains right ? its also my favorite tactic,
so you can add Oxandrolone in the last weeks
Oxandrolone 60 mg per day weeks 12-16
Like i say you dont need letro ,
in basic cycles like this i always think that Nolva + Proviron will be really enough but
if you wish to go for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) road than small dose Arimidex will be better option than Letro
At Week 17 you can do your post cycle therapy (pct) , i am a fan of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) i think it should be used.
This is the basic plan , you can do more research but the structure will always be something similar to this (-1 ,+1)
 
Dr.Phoenix said:
OK than ,
As always you should go with basics,
Test Enanthate 500 mg / 1 ml each on Monday and Thursday for 14 Weeks long
I remember that you wish to cut in the end, you meant like solidify the gains right ? its also my favorite tactic,
so you can add Oxandrolone in the last weeks
Oxandrolone 60 mg per day weeks 12-16
Like i say you dont need letro ,
in basic cycles like this i always think that Nolva + Proviron will be really enough but
if you wish to go for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) road than small dose Arimidex will be better option than Letro
At Week 17 you can do your post cycle therapy (pct) , i am a fan of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) i think it should be used.
This is the basic plan , you can do more research but the structure will always be something similar to this (-1 ,+1)
Click to expand...

my question to this cycle would be should you not run the oxandrolone side by side with the test ? instead of having it by its self for the last 2 weeks ??
 
Thread title is misleading. I Came in here thinking new research shows that not running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) makes you get herpes and children :doh:
 
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