NPP and Test P

[KBD]

Hello let me give you a quick background of me.

I am 24 5 ft 11, and i have ran cycles in the past. Pretty decent doses 600-800mg range for some compounds. Such as Test and Tren.

Well i quit a few months ago ran some clomid for recovery, im doing well now but my question is, my hair was shedding on 500mg of test prop and 700mg of tren a week.

It has grown back ALMOST completely, i am supplemented Toco-8 and using Nizoral Shampoo.

I am craving to run another cycle but i am extremeley terrified of hair loss.

I was going to low dose it for maintenance (NOT TO BLOW UP). Get some strength back.

Was gonna do 250mg of test prop a week and 250mg of NPP.

Just curious, do you guys think that, a low dose of test like that will cause shedding?

Here are some pics from past cycling:

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[KBD]

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[KBD]

anyone? I hear theres alot of experienced people here, so im looking for a knowledgeable answer.

 

[ezred]

from what i've heard i think tren is harder on the hairline than test.... and 500mg of test prop plus 700mg of tren a week.... i'm guessing short ester tren as well since you were running prop and are talking about doing prop and npp... if so that's a lot of tren. i'd say 250mg/week of both test and nandro would be MUCH less likely to put the hurt on your follicles... being that most of it has grown back you might try using some kind of medicated shampoo or even something oral like propecia but maybe just have it on hand in case.

although if you're running a cycle to cruise and get some strength back personally it seems like long esters might be better? test-e and deca pinned 2x a week? less pinning and such, seems better for a cruise especially if you're not sure when you're gonna blast again.

i'm sure some more experienced people will chime in when they come around, and they'll cover stuff like the whole issue of cruising to begin with and what not cause that is another thing in and of itself.

 

[KBD]

from what i've heard i think tren is harder on the hairline than test.... and 500mg of test prop plus 700mg of tren a week.... i'm guessing short ester tren as well since you were running prop and are talking about doing prop and npp... if so that's a lot of tren. i'd say 250mg/week of both test and nandro would be MUCH less likely to put the hurt on your follicles... being that most of it has grown back you might try using some kind of medicated shampoo or even something oral like propecia but maybe just have it on hand in case.

although if you're running a cycle to cruise and get some strength back personally it seems like long esters might be better? test-e and deca pinned 2x a week? less pinning and such, seems better for a cruise especially if you're not sure when you're gonna blast again.

i'm sure some more experienced people will chime in when they come around, and they'll cover stuff like the whole issue of cruising to begin with and what not cause that is another thing in and of itself.

I dont plan on cruising, just using for 6-8 weeks to feel better and do a post cycle therapy (pct) regimen again.

Also i will never in my life touch propecia, my cousin is Impotent for the rest of his life from that shit, and so are many other people i know.

I am using Primordial performances toco-8 and im using Nizoral shampoo.

 

[Cobra Strike]

I too am concerned with hairloss and have done a lot of research. I have heard that toco-8 was good stuff but I dont have any personal experience with it. I wont take finastride due to the side effects. After countless hours of research I decided to go with DR. Lee's topical 5% spironolactone. The spiro coats the follicles which protects them from the dht binding to their receptors. I believe that with a lesser test dose you would have a lesser dht level circulating in your blood stream. I also believe that with or without the mpb gene people who use test, or other compounds that convert to dht,will eventually lose their hair regardless. Testosterone converts to dht which binds to the hair follicles and thats what makes you go bald. Now the only follicles that have the dht receptors are the follicles on the top of your head, hence why most people have the bozo the clown hair cut. You can also use minoxodil for regrowth but when you stop using it your hair will continue to fall out. From what I have read (I may be wrong here) once the process of your hair falling out starts then it doesnt stop so the best thing anyone can do is prevent it. You can treat it with regrowth but again when you stop the treatment your hair will start to fall out again. This is why I am using the spiro. I could get into alot more detail about the conversion of dht and the effects it has the the hair follicles but I think this generally covers it. I hope it helps but if its not enough info then there is always google

 

[KBD]

I too am concerned with hairloss and have done a lot of research. I have heard that toco-8 was good stuff but I dont have any personal experience with it. I wont take finastride due to the side effects. After countless hours of research I decided to go with DR. Lee's topical 5% spironolactone. The spiro coats the follicles which protects them from the dht binding to their receptors. I believe that with a lesser test dose you would have a lesser dht level circulating in your blood stream. I also believe that with or without the mpb gene people who use test, or other compounds that convert to dht,will eventually lose their hair regardless. Testosterone converts to dht which binds to the hair follicles and thats what makes you go bald. Now the only follicles that have the dht receptors are the follicles on the top of your head, hence why most people have the bozo the clown hair cut. You can also use minoxodil for regrowth but when you stop using it your hair will continue to fall out. From what I have read (I may be wrong here) once the process of your hair falling out starts then it doesnt stop so the best thing anyone can do is prevent it. You can treat it with regrowth but again when you stop the treatment your hair will start to fall out again. This is why I am using the spiro. I could get into alot more detail about the conversion of dht and the effects it has the the hair follicles but I think this generally covers it. I hope it helps but if its not enough info then there is always google

I know that DHT causes hair loss lol.

Im just saying i experienced minimal hairloss on high doses of AAS so on a low dose i shouldnt experience any right?

 

[georgewbush]

nizoral and spiro

 

[KBD]

nizoral and spiro

YEah i have some Nizoral, i know where to get sprio.

Does Spiro cause side effects like Finasteride? Cause of its ability to lower DHT?

Or does the spiro lower DHT in the scalp only?

 

[smiley02]

as much as tren is pretty damn good,most bros says its not worth it......

 

[KBD]

as much as tren is pretty damn good,most bros says its not worth it......

It really isnt

 

[Cobra Strike]

wether you take a small dose or large it is still going to be converting to dht and therefore dht will be in your system and binding to your follicles receptors. As I stated earlier there is nothing better than prevention. Once it starts its too late. Eventually anyone who runs aas will lose their hair unless they can prevent it from starting. Spiro's side effects are extremely minimal due to the fact that 1% or less gets into your system.

 

[KBD]

wether you take a small dose or large it is still going to be converting to dht and therefore dht will be in your system and binding to your follicles receptors. As I stated earlier there is nothing better than prevention. Once it starts its too late. Eventually anyone who runs aas will lose their hair unless they can prevent it from starting. Spiro's side effects are extremely minimal due to the fact that 1% or less gets into your system.

I dont know if i believe that 100%. Cause all my hair grew back. From shedding.

And theres plenty of people who might lose hair on tren, and then when they do a test cycle they dont lose any hair.

 

[smiley02]

well i just finished my test cycle and i lost some of my hair that im starting to getting back now uesing toco-8.

 

[KBD]

well i just finished my test cycle and i lost some of my hair that im starting to getting back now uesing toco-8.

Yeah toco-8 is the shit, 2 scoops a day stopped shedding.

I know this is a retarded move, but im going to run nandrolone on its own maybe with some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), cant be going bald and im married so if i need to fuck ill pop a cialis.

 

[smiley02]

Yeah toco-8 is the shit, 2 scoops a day stopped shedding.

I know this is a retarded move, but im going to run nandrolone on its own maybe with some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), cant be going bald and im married so if i need to fuck ill pop a cialis.

nandrolone how much u will do and for how long??.... start hcg from the 2week. 250iu ew will be good

 

[georgewbush]

I dont know if i believe that 100%. Cause all my hair grew back. From shedding.

And theres plenty of people who might lose hair on tren, and then when they do a test cycle they dont lose any hair.

it never comes back completely 100%

 

[KBD]

it never comes back completely 100%

Of course not, but its back enough to where I or nobody else notices lol so thats good enough for me .

nandrolone how much u will do and for how long??.... start hcg from the 2week. 250iu ew will be good

NPP for 6 weeks @ 300mg a week, since its a short ester, with a 4 week post cycle therapy (pct). Clomid What u think?

 

[smiley02]

it never comes back completely 100%

i agree 100%

 

[georgewbush]

YEah i have some Nizoral, i know where to get sprio.

Does Spiro cause side effects like Finasteride? Cause of its ability to lower DHT?

Or does the spiro lower DHT in the scalp only?

if youre referring to the permanent ED and other permanent sides thats different from just inhibiting 5-ar it self. theres something wrong with all the oral 5ar inhibitor drugs where certain unlucky people have adverse side effects from taking it and you dont know if you will or not until you do. the amount of absorption into your bloodstream from topical spiro probably isnt enough to cause it, atleast i havent read anyone who had the permanent propecia sides from using spiro (but spiro makes them worse for people who already have it)