ON testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and taking extra test having a problem.

[bc0508]

ON TRT and taking extra test having a problem.

I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and I do any extra cc a week I was feeling pretty good but has been a decline I figure I was low and needed more test. I took deca for 10 weeks and been off it now for over month.

I went in and had blood work and was told my test is extremely high. Everything else I was told was great. Can that cause some ED its not all the time and seems to be only in the middle of sex.

I thought I might be high on estrogen so I went to where i get my supplements the ones you can buy easily. He suggested grape seed extract and product called free test. I have been taking both of those. I have lowered my test I have been taking.

Should I have been doing a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with the test or is it really needed. If so will the grape seed extract and free test help.

I dont know if i am still having the problem from the DECA or is ti too much test.
I dont really feel that bad I feel like my energy is down some but the ED is the biggest thing for me.

 

[BigKevKris]

Possible prolactin issue is what it sounds like to me......Some cabergoline would be a good place to start.....i would request a copy of you labs though to verify this.

 

[bc0508]

I will see if I can get a copy of it. Do you know of any alliterative to cabergoline I plan to order some or some NOLVADEX when I order my next goodies. My source at the gym only had test and deca. Do you think NOLVADEX will work as good as the caber.

I would like to find something local. I read on another post that some people say b6 300mg will help with the problem. I was thinking bout running down and picking some up.

I buddy told me to try to pick up some vialkor but not sure if that stuff works to get me past the ED.

 

[grind4it]

Bro, you need to get blood work done. Go to PrivateMDlabs and spring for the blood test. My money is on high estrogen.

There is no way to be sure unless you get your blood checked.

 

[bc0508]

To add a bit I am not having any pain in the nipples or anything like that I am just got the ED.. The ED is ether not getting hard enough or loosing the hardness.

 

[bc0508]

I will see if i can get my report if not i will spring for the bloodtest.

 

[bc0508]

Ok I called and they faxed me my blood test I know some of you guys are experts on this please tell me what is wrong.
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[ryand]

You need a more specific lab test. They only took measurements on your test, not any other sex hormone.

 

[bc0508]

Thanks so it was not complete I had a feeling it wasnt. What do I ask for if i just go foot the bill for one myself a complete test or just certain things.

 

[Teutonic]

I think this will sort itself if you chill and let homeostasis set in..deca s trace elements last for an ungodly time..but it s about to clear as far as raising concerns over prolactin..been off a month right ?

ED is a drag but thinking about your erections instead of what your doing with it can psyche urself into trying to put an oyster in a parking meter...relax..let your body adjust....

 

[bc0508]

Yeah I been off for over month...I really didnt see any side affects when I was on it. I didnt really start seeing the effects until i went on KETO hard I keep my carbs under 50 and 100 on the carb up day. I have made tons of progress in my goals since I started increasing my test and going on KETO I have dropped 35 lbs in 6 weeks. I have about 20 to go and I will be at my goal of 250. My lifts have increased and endurance both.
I have always been a very strong fatass and now I am getting to my goal of being a strong not fat ass. I really just dont want to screw up my progress and I was scared I was going to. I will try to chill a bit.

 

[Teutonic]

Dude testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is ALL u need to avoid catabolism..I d up rep s to 15 on everything if your gonna eat like my 6 yr old and your dick...well that ll be fine dude.

 

[bc0508]

Oh I didnt know that I will run my reps up.. Thanks for your advice.

 

[Moppy1]

Definitely get an estrogen blocker and maybe some clomid. High E, especially when quitting Test, can affect your erections. Anti-prolactin may help too, but hard to know without blood work for estrogen levels and current test level (you said it was still crazy high though).

Despite all this, I can share my experience. Have been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for a few years, very constant levels of 300 mg/week, with antiestrogen 3x a week, giving me a E value of below 60 always. Prolactin is never an issue for me and was never high. Despite great blood chemistries, ED still happens to me periodically, all the time. It is one of the prices you pay for AAS. After 10 years of use (some at really high levels), I can tell you there is often no rhyme or reason for it, just happens for months at a time, then it goes away and I am hard as ever for other months. No idea why. Cialis works great for me......get some!!!! Oh, and I am in my mid 40s which also usually means more problems in that department.

 

[Moppy1]

Ok I called and they faxed me my blood test I know some of you guys are experts on this please tell me what is wrong.
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Your hemocrit is on the high side, maybe donate blood 3-4x a year, as long as you are on TRT. I have to do this as well.

 

[bc0508]

I have been on the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for a little over year and just now really gotten serious. What are you doing for antiestrogen I dont plan on getting off test I will just stay on it like I have. I was getting good results with the gel and the shot combo until a few weeks ago when I went down hill. Maybe I am just over thinking the ED since now that I am dropping pound seems like the wife wants it all the time.

I will have to try to look in to donating blood again last time they hurt me bad couldnt hit the damn veins. I went after some cliais doc told me he wanted to get my test right before he would write it for me. I am almost 40 btw.

 

[Moppy1]

I have been on the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for a little over year and just now really gotten serious. What are you doing for antiestrogen I dont plan on getting off test I will just stay on it like I have. I was getting good results with the gel and the shot combo until a few weeks ago when I went down hill. Maybe I am just over thinking the ED since now that I am dropping pound seems like the wife wants it all the time.

I will have to try to look in to donating blood again last time they hurt me bad couldnt hit the damn veins. I went after some cliais doc told me he wanted to get my test right before he would write it for me. I am almost 40 btw.

1) I use Liquid Letro from RUI, 0.5 mls 3x a week. Of all the anti-Es, it works the best for me and always keeps my values below 60 when I have blood work done (and best for my nips and prostate)
2) My testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is 300 mg/week, which is high, but very nice and it keeps my pecker working better than 200mg/wk. Most doctors wont like 300mg/wk, so be persuasive (but 200 mg/week is a must if that is the best you can do).
3) I use only injectable, not the gels. Cyp or enanthate.
4) Cialis 5mg was just approved to treat BPH (benign prostate hypertrophy) and your insurance company will pay for it!!!! That gives you 5mg a day, and if you take it everyday as prescribed, your wood will be great! Tell your doc to write the script for Cialis 5,g /daily, for BPH.
5) Definitely get used to donating blood on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), especially if you also do lots of cardio, which also pushes it up.

 

[China_Wall]

be careful with limiting carbs like u were doing... that can play an ugly game with your mind (affecting temper and sex drive to name a few)

could have been the deca, but I doubt u were running a high enough dosage to get the "unmanly" deca dick

 

[SamSong]

So you have no idea now, and never have had, what your Estrogen levels are?

Hmmm. What would I do here . . . .

(it's heartwarming, the amount of trust you have in your doctor.)

 

[bc0508]

I dont plan to stay on the low carb forever i just got about 20lb more then I will stop that low of carbs. Yes I am not happy with not knowing the estrogen levels I will asking for him to test me from now on. I am going to ask for all my blood tests I have had to see if any of them have them on there.