optimum pharma threads ???????

[Lswonmatt]

Been reading up on some op and seems like the threads just came to a halt on them ...either they had bad pip or they would get back to us on there cycles and never did.. so I was wondering what your opinion on it? Over dosed under dosed bad pip or smooth with minimal pip ? What kind of gains are you seeing with your op cycles ? Matt !!

 

[Bjjblackbelt]

Bumping

 

[Wrasse02]

I've been using OP for quite some time now....

I've gained solid results from their test E, Test C, Tren E, and even used with winstrol



that being said, the last few batches seemed kinda underdosed.
Last blood i got, had my test levels surprising low for running test e at 250mg/week



Gonna give PSL a try when i run out of my test E

 

[Bjjblackbelt]

Did you get some bloodwork? How did it feel underdosed?

 

[Wrasse02]

Did you get some bloodwork? How did it feel underdosed?

Yes, i got blood work done. I consistently get bloodwork done.


How did it feel underdosed?
Because my test levels were much lower (@250mg/week Test E) when I ran it with OP than when I ran it with Pinnacle

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

Yes, i got blood work done. I consistently get bloodwork done.


How did it feel underdosed?
Because my test levels were much lower (@250mg/week Test E) when I ran it with OP than when I ran it with Pinnacle

My Friend,
I am sorry that you had a problem like that , maybe it could a bad batch related to raw material.
Please send me your bloodtest, i will check it personally. Now we dont have a problem like that .
Also , allow me to compensate your loss, how about some stuff you need for free ?
Me and those guys trust their service , bad batches can happen in all companies once a while.
But they are honest and sincere , been in the business more than 10 years now ...
So they will happily correct this situation for you

 

[knaledge]

I tried op, its definitely not bunk but i tried psl this time around for a couple of reasons. The main reasion being the pip. You do get used to it for the most part but every once in awhile you still take that one shot that knots up and is not comfortable, i dont get this with other labs. And i have had much better results from other labs that ive had that i can no longer get, i cant prove this cause i dont get bloods done sadly, but i can definitely tell its not as strong as some of the other stuff out their. I dont work for any of these companies or get paid to write for anyone, just sharing my experience. And so far no pip with psl 3 weeks in so cant speak much on gains but def not bunk either, so far happy with it.

 

[Wrasse02]

I tried op, its definitely not bunk but i tried psl this time around for a couple of reasons. The main reasion being the pip. You do get used to it for the most part but every once in awhile you still take that one shot that knots up and is not comfortable, i dont get this with other labs. And i have had much better results from other labs that ive had that i can no longer get, i cant prove this cause i dont get bloods done sadly, but i can definitely tell its not as strong as some of the other stuff out their. I dont work for any of these companies or get paid to write for anyone, just sharing my experience. And so far no pip with psl 3 weeks in so cant speak much on gains but def not bunk either, so far happy with it.

ive honestly never had PIP with OP...

Only when I ran tren E. But thats kind of expected



and BTW Dr.P, i sent you a PM

 

[knaledge]

ive honestly never had PIP with OP...

Only when I ran tren E. But thats kind of expected



and BTW Dr.P, i sent you a PM

Thats pretty crazy everywhere i read about op they complain about pip, and i experienced it. When i was gonna order from them i knew ppl were having problems with it but i figured whats a little pip gomnna hurt? Its manageable, just uncomfortable. But the results werent worth me continuing with the pip or even a chance of their being any pip ..

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

Thats pretty crazy everywhere i read about op they complain about pip, and i experienced it. When i was gonna order from them i knew ppl were having problems with it but i figured whats a little pip gomnna hurt? Its manageable, just uncomfortable. But the results werent worth me continuing with the pip or even a chance of their being any pip ..

Bro, around 2-3 years ago some pip problem occured but OP solved it very quickly. But of course this is internet , so some comments stayed...
But now they dont have any pip problem. But i must say if you dont get any pip , i mean not at all , even tough how much you inject or where...
Than that gear is under dosed, as you can imagine some discomfort will occur , not in normal limits.

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

ive honestly never had PIP with OP...

Only when I ran tren E. But thats kind of expected



and BTW Dr.P, i sent you a PM

I have saw your PM , the number which you give for 250 mg test per week seem to be in normal range.
Maybe the other lab which you compare put too much raw material inside to increase reputation among people BUT
thats not a good thing i must say, Cycling is about calculation , in your situation 250 mg or 350 mg doesnt create too much difference as side effects but
Think about what if some guy will make a strong cycle and will want to put 5 ml per week. He will receive accidently somewhere close to 2000 mg of Test instead of 1250.
That can change too much , like too much water and fat retention and maybe this guy is getting ready for competition ...
Or maybe he does 1250 mg test cycles all the time and he knows which AI he need to use for this, if he will come accross to overdosed product, he can get gyno...
Anyway i think i made my point , but like i say , if you need anything PM me

 

[Transporter]

Used OP more than few times and yes I did get a little pip here and there but their gear is legit. I do actually have blood works to prove it. Also Doc has been there for any problems that might have come up along the way. Definitely a good lab.

 

[HonkyMcMofo]

No pip or bunk gear for me. 250 isn't much more than a trt dose. What were you expecting? Instead of just saying the levels were good or bad, why not give us the actual numbers?

 

[Wrasse02]

I have saw your PM , the number which you give for 250 mg test per week seem to be in normal range.
Maybe the other lab which you compare put too much raw material inside to increase reputation among people BUT
thats not a good thing i must say, Cycling is about calculation , in your situation 250 mg or 350 mg doesnt create too much difference as side effects but
Think about what if some guy will make a strong cycle and will want to put 5 ml per week. He will receive accidently somewhere close to 2000 mg of Test instead of 1250.
That can change too much , like too much water and fat retention and maybe this guy is getting ready for competition ...
Or maybe he does 1250 mg test cycles all the time and he knows which AI he need to use for this, if he will come accross to overdosed product, he can get gyno...
Anyway i think i made my point , but like i say , if you need anything PM me

I understand, which is why in my PM i said it wasnt a big deal. and probably going to continue using OP

 

[Wrasse02]

No pip or bunk gear for me. 250 isn't much more than a trt dose. What were you expecting? Instead of just saying the levels were good or bad, why not give us the actual numbers?

i understand 250mg/wk is trt dose...


with pinnacle @250mg/wk my test levels were >1500ng/dl
with OP, they are in the normal-high range

 

[Transporter]

with pinnacle @250mg/wk my test levels were >1500ng/dl

Yes, pinnacle was great

 

[carverelli]

Yes, pinnacle was great

So keep using them... That's right, they're not around anymore. I'd use OP any day over a company that disappeared. With OP you know what to expect, and they delivEr every time

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

So keep using them... That's right, they're not around anymore. I'd use OP any day over a company that disappeared. With OP you know what to expect, and they delivEr every time

Yes , Pinnacle was good , but this market is like this many brands came and disappear by time , Even British Dragon couldnt survive ...
Sadly its nature of this business , rule of the game...

 

[daniel h]

I posted about it being underdosed with proof of blood work and never got a response. I've bought a lot of gear from them. But still haven't got a response.

 

[Transporter]

So keep using them... That's right, they're not around anymore. I'd use OP any day over a company that disappeared. With OP you know what to expect, and they delivEr every time

Dude read all the posts well before you respond next time. I never said OP wasn't good. If anything I been using them since the pinnacle went down and stated in one of the posts above on how they are LEGIT based on my bloods. But also stated that pinnacle was very good for the time that lasted and that's speaking the truth and not bashing OP.