nekrawulf said:
My question to you is this....What would you define your body type as?
That's a tough one. Before I started lifting at age 40, I looked like two different bodies had been grafted together at the diaphragm. Below that line, I was an endomorph; above, an ecto. It's taken me six years of lifting to grow enough chest, back and shoulders to just look like all my parts belong to the same person. I gain fat easily. I wouldn't classify myself as a "hardgainer," but I'm not an easy gainer either. I tend to get more hypertrophy than strength -- my size advertises more than it can deliver.
It has been my experience and also those of several around me, that certain types of ectomorphs and even some type of meso morphs respond quite well to dball/anadrol at the beginning of their cycle, and they made very slow gains from the rest of the cycle. This has happened on several occasions, and I could not figure out why. I finally decided to try a test with a few of my friends ( I am a personal trainer ) whom I knew juiced and had brough this problem to my attention.
I looked in their history and it had shown that while "off" they maintained a quite consistent workout routine.....almost to the point of boredom,....hell...Im guilty of this myself. But when it came time for them to go one they would either a) do a comletely different workout routine, or b) would maintain the same routine, but kick up the intensity. I ran an experiment with them and myself where we would change our routines every 4 weeks. The gains have been nothing but astounding. Every time they start a new routine....they pack on a few more pounds....then near the end it seems they level out...then bam...I slam them with a new routine for 4 more weeks...it has worked wonders for not only them, but also myself.
That's good to know. I tend to fall into a rut all too easily, or do the same routine for months, only changing up the # of reps and sets.
I truly belive that they are soem body types that fall into patterns of muscle memory and their bodies become so used to the strain that they adapt very quickly and gains are hindered. Ive been off d ball for 2 weeks now.....and of course I started a new routine...and ive gained 4 pounds in thre past 2 weeks.
So to answer your question in a very log winded way......if diet/training/rest are on par.....shock the hell out of your body with a routine it has never seen before......It will grow
Another problem that I think I've identified in myself is that the gains on d-bol come so easily that I tend to become complacent and mentally lazy. When the d-bol is done, I expect to be able to continue to do the same things and get the same results, but it just ain't so. I keep pushing for PBs the way I was when I was on d-bol, and that leads to overtraining.
BUT --
Lets consider a hypothetical situation. You have a pair of twin lifters, who are in identical condition at the beginning of a cycle. Lets say they're both starting a cycle of 500mg/enan/wk, 400mg/EQ/wk., for 12 weeks. But one of the twins kick starts his cycle with 40mg/d-bol/day for four weeks, and the other doesn't. Assuming identical diets, and "optimum" workouts, we can probably assume that the twin on d-bol will pull out ahead of his brother during the first four or five weeks of the cycle. At the end of the cycle, though, again assuming all else is equal, what difference would you expect? Would the twin who didn't take orals, through slow, steady gains, end up in the same place as his brother who made the fast initial gains on d-bol?
Thanks.
--dave
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