oral steroids \ gel tost \ SARMS

[oranzie]

hey everybody,

about me: 28 year old, about 150 lbs 5.8".

i`m intrested in doing my first ever cycle (after 1.5 years of workout)

i cannot inject to myself - so it has to be either Oral or Gel \ patch.

what would be the best solution for me ?

i heard of Gel test.
i heard of SARM (MK-2866, 30 ml 50mg/m)
i hard of test patches

which of the 3 would be best for a first cycle ?

also if someone knows about the SARMS - i am trying to fully understand if its human allowed or not (i have read of users using it, but also that its not for humans,, so want to be sure) - i`m reffering to MK-2866, 30 ml 50mg/ml being sold at uniqe chemicals.

thanks in advance.

 

[hamidgs]

gel and patches are not strong enough , the gain maybe very slow. oral is the better one. if you can combine it with proviron . but its nothing like injectable

 

[Chi23]

read the sticky "oral cycles"

that being said get over your fear of injecting yourself if you wanna get involved with AAS

 

[noobmuscle]

read the sticky "oral cycles"

that being said get over your fear of injecting yourself if you wanna get involved with AAS

EXACTLY! If you would rather deal with the damage to your liver that an oral would cause instead of facing a fear of injection, then you are probablt not ready for AAS.

Like Chi23 said, go back the forum thread page and read the sitcky: "oral only cycles." If anyone tells you it is ok to take just pills, they probably don't know what they are talking about.

 

[variance]

The gel and patch are pretty much gonna do the same thing -- with the obvious difference being that the patch will keep your T levels elevated longer.

You do have other options, however, the obvious one being a QUICK cycle of orals (6 weeks, etc). The more effective ones are liver toxic, but some, like Primo are not -- and it being your first cycle, you will actually see some lean gains from it (5lbs in 2 months is nothing to scoff at considering that's about what a natural will gain in a year). Then use the sarm as part of your post cycle therapy (pct) to keep the gains/strength in the gym.

Another option you might want to try (this is only useful if you've never cycled before) would be to run a course of Letro (or other AI). I know this sounds wierd, but Letro can boost your natural T 120% or more. Your not gonna turn into Arnold, and you will have to work your ass off, but you will definitely see an improvement in your physique/pumps. I'm sure people will disagree with how effective an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) 'cycle' may be, but I've done it myself with decent results.

The last option, if you need to gain bulk fast w/o the pinning (I can't believe I'm actually saying that), would be to use the T patch/gel, add in Winstrol (winny) or primo or anavar and proviron (to keep the SHBG occupied), and use some form of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at the same time. Do that for 8 weeks max, and then follow up with SARM and proper post cycle therapy (pct). You can also practice pinning by adding some HCG (for nut size and more importantly recovery). It uses an insulin syringe which are really small and easy to do -- gets you in practice for the IM's later on.

Good luck.

 

[crazyfmike]

Just stick one time all that fear is over.

Remember this game isn't for everyone.

 

[CuriousNewb]

The gel and patch are pretty much gonna do the same thing -- with the obvious difference being that the patch will keep your T levels elevated longer.

You do have other options, however, the obvious one being a QUICK cycle of orals (6 weeks, etc). The more effective ones are liver toxic, but some, like Primo are not -- and it being your first cycle, you will actually see some lean gains from it (5lbs in 2 months is nothing to scoff at considering that's about what a natural will gain in a year). Then use the sarm as part of your post cycle therapy (pct) to keep the gains/strength in the gym.

Another option you might want to try (this is only useful if you've never cycled before) would be to run a course of Letro (or other AI). I know this sounds wierd, but Letro can boost your natural T 120% or more. Your not gonna turn into Arnold, and you will have to work your ass off, but you will definitely see an improvement in your physique/pumps. I'm sure people will disagree with how effective an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) 'cycle' may be, but I've done it myself with decent results.

The last option, if you need to gain bulk fast w/o the pinning (I can't believe I'm actually saying that), would be to use the T patch/gel, add in Winstrol (winny) or primo or anavar and proviron (to keep the SHBG occupied), and use some form of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at the same time. Do that for 8 weeks max, and then follow up with SARM and proper post cycle therapy (pct). You can also practice pinning by adding some HCG (for nut size and more importantly recovery). It uses an insulin syringe which are really small and easy to do -- gets you in practice for the IM's later on.

Good luck.

I'll admit i'm a noob and have never done a cycle of any kind in my life.... But none of this sounds like good advice to me. I bet the vets will agree. Plus this is this guys first post...?

You say you 'can't' inject yourself. Is this because you are afraid to, or you get you body inspected, or you can't reach your ass.... Why can't you?

I would be way more afraid of sarms than injectables, my understanding is that they are very new compounds and the long and even short term effects are not well known.

Bottom line is almost everyone who really knows what they're talking about will reccomend that you use injectables in any cycle. So you should probably listen to them.