Permanent loss libido from Tren & Winnie?

[octave78]

Hi
I ran a single, 2 month cycle with test, tren and winstrol. This was my first and only steroid cycle.

I ran TRT for 5 weeks with clomid.

Around 2 weeks after TRT finished i lost all libido and it never came back (nearly 2 years later)

I had complete blood work and everything is fine, everything was in normal limits. Only thing that was slightly high was Cortisol.

My Testosterone level is 450 and free test is normal.

I thought maybe i try increase Testosterone level so i took TRT dose of test e - 100ml test e per week. I did this for another 2 months. No change in libido. I took clomid for 5 weeks.

So it seems increasing testosterone level doesnt help increase libido.

Low libido causing me erectile dysfunction. But i regularly wake up with morning wood... but if i then touch my dick a bit the erection goes almost immediately.

Possible to have sex with Viagra... only the intention isnt really there. If i take a viagra i can have sex and start enjoying it... but theres no real drive to want to have sex i see attractive women all the time now and since im not interested in having sex with them i just talk to them normally and surprise surprise this is very attractive to them as I dont seem to be persuing them and suddenly they all asking me for sex quite forwardly but i cant usually be bothered.. LOL

Is there some function of Tren and Winstrol which could be causing loss of libido, but not through suppression of testosterone. Since i dont have low testosterone. And even if i increase testosterone to a high level.. it doesnt return libido at all.

I havent had Tren or Winstrol for a year or more could there still be some of this stuck in my system somehow?

 

[yesidont]

Did you checked your E2 level ?? Short erections and no ability to keep them can be caused by very low E2 level.

For libido better option is IMO pt 141 nasal spray.

And for your problem maybe Proviron ( 25mg of even 50 ED for a long long time after all will be normal you can lover dosage ) will be a good choice but you need to find whats happened, while on prov you need to check whats going on also with your lover cos its a lil bit toxic to liver and may cause a liver tumors /

If i would have the same problem like you i would act this way

8-10 weeks on TRT add HCG in 5th week 250iu E4D till PCT than 1250iu once a week thru PCT ( to give a kick to your organism ) and for PCT NOLVA AND CLOMID ( not sure about prov here becuse for sure all will be ok while you gonna to run this TRT with prov, but it should with a lil bit of luck heal you prom your problem, also after few months on prov you should be healed )

hope its helps, thats all i know maybe vet can help you with this or just while you know a little bit more try to find some info or go to your doc and tell him all you know

 

[BigSwolenPussy]

Did you checked your E2 level ?? Short erections and no ability to keep them can be caused by very low E2 level.

For libido better option is IMO pt 141 nasal spray.

And for your problem maybe Proviron will be a good choice but you need to find whats happened.

If i would have the same problem like you i would act this way

8-10 weeks on TRT add HCG in 5th week 250iu E4D till PCT than 1250iu once a week thru PCT ( to give a kick to your organism ) and for PCT NOLVA AND CLOMID

hope its helps

You realize that TRT is lifetime testosterone replacement right? HCG during PCT is going to fuck up pct. I'm not going to flame you dude but your past few "advice" post are a little off....

 

[yesidont]

You realize that TRT is lifetime testosterone replacement right? HCG during PCT is going to fuck up pct. I'm not going to flame you dude but your past few "advice" post are a little off....

yes TRT should be lifetime but sometimes some ppl have problems and they may be cured. And for HCG this is what you thinking, i ran cycles 12y ago always used HCG while PCT other one dont to that, other ppl run HCG after PCT every few years someone starting to tell something else. I didnt made lab tests and i think you didnt also so if you dont know how to help him dont flame me but just write ... " you wrong ... becuse .... bla bla bla "

 

[BigSwolenPussy]

yes TRT should be lifetime but sometimes some ppl have problems and they may be cured. And for HCG this is what you thinking, i ran cycles 12y ago always used HCG while PCT other one dont to that, other ppl run HCG after PCT every few years someone starting to tell something else. I didnt made lab tests and i think you didnt also so if you dont know how to help him dont flame me but just write ... " you wrong ... becuse .... bla bla bla "

Ok then, You are wrong because:

TRT is a long term replacement of natural testosterone production used when a man no longer produces enough naturally to function properly, not as a temporary solution to ED.

HCG should not be used at all in PCT. For steroid cycles, HCG really should only be used in PCT if a mistake has been made which needs a correction.
When it’s used in PCT, the purpose is to correct testicular non-responsiveness or atrophy which has developed during a cycle. The longer the cycle, the more likely there will be a problem, and the worse the problem is likely to be.
When non-responsiveness occurs, then even after LH production is recovered the testes still do not produce testosterone in good amounts, and overall recovery is slower.
It’s a poor and unnecessary plan to allow the testes to atrophy by starting HCG after the steroid cycle ends. It’s better to avoid atrophy and non-responsiveness from occurring in the first place. HCG use during post-cycle therapy can impair recovery of LH production. So it’s not at all the ideal time to use it.
HCG should be used in the middle or late part of the cycle or even throughout and no later than the last steroid injection of the cycle.

 

[A.B]

I'm definitely confused by the original post... sounds to me like you need to run a proper PCT and realize your body needs to become balanced again which doesn't happen over night... Personally after youre done PCT youre still going to go through the motions of hormones normalizing

 

[Megatron28]

Hi
I ran a single, 2 month cycle with test, tren and winstrol. This was my first and only steroid cycle.

I ran TRT for 5 weeks with clomid.

Around 2 weeks after TRT finished i lost all libido and it never came back (nearly 2 years later)

I had complete blood work and everything is fine, everything was in normal limits. Only thing that was slightly high was Cortisol.

My Testosterone level is 450 and free test is normal.

I thought maybe i try increase Testosterone level so i took TRT dose of test e - 100ml test e per week. I did this for another 2 months. No change in libido. I took clomid for 5 weeks.

So it seems increasing testosterone level doesnt help increase libido.

Low libido causing me erectile dysfunction. But i regularly wake up with morning wood... but if i then touch my dick a bit the erection goes almost immediately.

Possible to have sex with Viagra... only the intention isnt really there. If i take a viagra i can have sex and start enjoying it... but theres no real drive to want to have sex i see attractive women all the time now and since im not interested in having sex with them i just talk to them normally and surprise surprise this is very attractive to them as I dont seem to be persuing them and suddenly they all asking me for sex quite forwardly but i cant usually be bothered.. LOL

Is there some function of Tren and Winstrol which could be causing loss of libido, but not through suppression of testosterone. Since i dont have low testosterone. And even if i increase testosterone to a high level.. it doesnt return libido at all.

I havent had Tren or Winstrol for a year or more could there still be some of this stuck in my system somehow?

You should not be self-medicating. You failed to run PCT after you cycle -- a very bad first cycle by the way.

Then you seemed to have the idea that taking 100mg of exogenous testosterone would "top up" your testosterone levels where in reality it shuts down your natural testosterone production. If your body senses that it already has enough it stops making its own. You really need to learn how your HPTA works. You are hurting yourself.

 

[IMT staff]

Fire up the HCG

 

[yesidont]

Ok then, You are wrong because:

TRT is a long term replacement of natural testosterone production used when a man no longer produces enough naturally to function properly, not as a temporary solution to ED.

HCG should not be used at all in PCT. For steroid cycles, HCG really should only be used in PCT if a mistake has been made which needs a correction.
When it***8217;s used in PCT, the purpose is to correct testicular non-responsiveness or atrophy which has developed during a cycle. The longer the cycle, the more likely there will be a problem, and the worse the problem is likely to be.
When non-responsiveness occurs, then even after LH production is recovered the testes still do not produce testosterone in good amounts, and overall recovery is slower.
It***8217;s a poor and unnecessary plan to allow the testes to atrophy by starting HCG after the steroid cycle ends. It***8217;s better to avoid atrophy and non-responsiveness from occurring in the first place. HCG use during post-cycle therapy can impair recovery of LH production. So it***8217;s not at all the ideal time to use it.
HCG should be used in the middle or late part of the cycle or even throughout and no later than the last steroid injection of the cycle.

You totally wright !!

BUT we can assume that " a mistake has been made which needs a correction " in this case. Anyway i asked my friends mom ( she is a endocrinologist ) about "this case" and she told me : " he should immediately go to his doc, there is nothing to shamed of "

 

[3J]

well if his test levels natty were 450 and everything was in place.. i'd say this isn't a hormone issue.. esp if he's waking up with morning wood.. this might be psychological..

better yet, OP, what prescription drugs do you take, if any?

any anti depressants? opioids?