pharm grade VS UG?

[MS1605]

This was just something I have been thinking about. I have been doing research for about 4 years now on AAS and decided to hold off till my natty gains stopped like most advise. After 4 years of reading all I could on forums the consensus is ALWAYS the same. Pharm grade blows away UG. My question is, what is it that actually makes pharm grade so much better? I understand it is always going to be more sterile than UG but beyond that what makes pharm so much better?

 

[bte2]

not underdosed or counterfitted. There a guy online who sells books where he has the lab results for all the major ugl's. I forget his name..

 

[MS1605]

not underdosed or counterfitted. There a guy online who sells books where he has the lab results for all the major ugl's. I forget his name..

If you remember it please post up. Ill try to find it as well but I would be interested in that. Another reason I was curious is because I was wondering if It is possible to homebrew a product that is just as good as pharm grade. Outside the sterility of an actual lab of course.

Again, since I haven't used AAS yet I have nothing to compare things to so sorry for the trivial questions.

Again, Im just curious if with quality powder and a sterile environment (as sterile as one could be without a lab) is it possible to brew gear that is just as effective as Pharm grade.

P.S. I over analyze everything...

 

[metalstorm]

Peace of mind is what HG gives you.

 

[metalstorm]

If you remember it please post up. Ill try to find it as well but I would be interested in that. Another reason I was curious is because I was wondering if It is possible to homebrew a product that is just as good as pharm grade. Outside the sterility of an actual lab of course.

Again, since I haven't used AAS yet I have nothing to compare things to so sorry for the trivial questions.

Again, Im just curious if with quality powder and a sterile environment (as sterile as one could be without a lab) is it possible to brew gear that is just as effective as Pharm grade.

P.S. I over analyze everything...

If your powder is pure, then yes.

 

[JScondition]

My question is, what is it that actually makes pharm grade so much better? I understand it is always going to be more sterile than UG but beyond that what makes pharm so much better?

One thing worse is you are going to spend 5 times as much on a HG cycle as opposed to an UGL cycle. And I'm sure you can counterfeit HG gear if you dont have an Rx for it. So if you have a script for it then the good thing is it's legal lol.

 

[edogger]

Peace of mind is what HG gives you.

unfortunately HG is the most faked so unless you buy it from your local pharmacy, theres no real peace of mind.

If you remember it please post up. Ill try to find it as well but I would be interested in that. Another reason I was curious is because I was wondering if It is possible to homebrew a product that is just as good as pharm grade. Outside the sterility of an actual lab of course.

Again, since I haven't used AAS yet I have nothing to compare things to so sorry for the trivial questions.

Again, Im just curious if with quality powder and a sterile environment (as sterile as one could be without a lab) is it possible to brew gear that is just as effective as Pharm grade.

P.S. I over analyze everything...

The powder most UG labs are using is the same powder that HG uses. Underdosing and sterility are the only real issues.

 

[JMB1]

Pharm grade is superior in the fact that it has to meet FDA standards.
This eliminates most of the variables that create dosing and sterility problems.
I think pharm grade test is almost painless to inject.
However, some exoctics/vet drugs are not available in pharm grade,
tread carefully. Do your research.

 

[SFGiants]

One thing worse is you are going to spend 5 times as much on a HG cycle as opposed to an UGL cycle. And I'm sure you can counterfeit HG gear if you dont have an Rx for it. So if you have a script for it then the good thing is it's legal lol.

This is so not true amps are cheap as fuck you just have to know where to go!

 

[MS1605]

I think pharm grade test is almost painless to inject.

Thats the weird part. Test is the easiest to brew with the least steps. As long as your powder is pure and you make sure you are very sterile I don't know what else they could do in a lab to make test that much less painful.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

The powder most UG labs are using is the same powder that HG uses. Underdosing and sterility are the only real issues.

yes i agree here, more than 90% of the powder comes from china these days............

 

[Die$eL~Man]

pharm grade is always the best to go

 

[shithead]

I think he means or I'm under the assumption is your Human Grade is real from the get go.

One thing worse is you are going to spend 5 times as much on a HG cycle as opposed to an UGL cycle. And I'm sure you can counterfeit HG gear if you dont have an Rx for it. So if you have a script for it then the good thing is it's legal lol.

 

[metalstorm]

unfortunately HG is the most faked so unless you buy it from your local pharmacy, theres no real peace of mind.



The powder most UG labs are using is the same powder that HG uses. Underdosing and sterility are the only real issues.

Correct. When I get it from my pharmacy I have no doubts. I sometimes even have doubt on dosing even when it's compounded at a pharmacy.

 

[JMB1]

Depo test is the most widely available pharm grade anabolic today. I have heard
home brewing is very simple and way
more cost effective.
However I am conservative and prefer
the legal defense and piece of mind with legit testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) RX.
If you have powder, vials, solvent, crimper,
pill press, etc, it could be perceived you have a lab set up for distribution, not personal use. Very stiff penalties I want nothing to do with. Each to their own.
Stay swole.

Thats the weird part. Test is the easiest to brew with the least steps. As long as your powder is pure and you make sure you are very sterile I don't know what else they could do in a lab to make test that much less painful.

 

[edogger]

Depo test is the most widely available pharm grade anabolic today. I have heard
home brewing is very simple and way
more cost effective.
However I am conservative and prefer
the legal defense and piece of mind with legit testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) RX.
If you have powder, vials, solvent, crimper,
pill press, etc, it could be perceived you have a lab set up for distribution, not personal use. Very stiff penalties I want nothing to do with. Each to their own.
Stay swole.

steroids are not like marijuana or cocaine. There are no varying penalties for different posession amounts. Ie theres no set amount that constitutes "personal" use like there is with other drugs. If they really want to they can nail you for intent to distribute even with just a few vials. You dont need crimpers and pill presses and all that. Now proving it is another thing.

But the truth is most people who get nailed for gear are the dumbfucks who carry their shit around in their gym bag and then get popped on a routine traffic stop when the cop decides to search the car.

 

[numba1scrapper]

steroids are not like marijuana or cocaine. There are no varying penalties for different posession amounts. Ie theres no set amount that constitutes "personal" use like there is with other drugs. If they really want to they can nail you for intent to distribute even with just a few vials. You dont need crimpers and pill presses and all that. Now proving it is another thing.

But the truth is most people who get nailed for gear are the dumbfucks who carry their shit around in their gym bag and then get popped on a routine traffic stop when the cop decides to search the car.

I would have to disagree with you on this one, Feds can't rape you if you've got 4 10ml bottles of test and a few dbols. Can you get fucked? Of course, but for personal use the max you can get if you have no prior felonies is a year in jail which would most most likely not get any time at all. If you've got 500 grams of powder, 1,000 dbols, empty vials, pill press labels ext you could never see the light again.. Steroids are in the same Schedule III narcotic catagory as crack cocain which someone can do 20+ years EASY. A dope fiend on the other hand that buys a fat albert here and there probably would get a night in jail and a fine.

 

[edogger]

I would have to disagree with you on this one, Feds can't rape you if you've got 4 10ml bottles of test and a few hundred dbols. Can you get fucked? Of course, but for personal use the max you can get if you have no prior felonies is a year in jail which would most most likely not get any time at all. If you've got 500 grams of powder, 1,000 dbols, empty vials, pill press labels ext you could never see the light again.. Steroids are in the same Schedule III narcotic catagory as crack cocain which someone can do 20+ years EASY. A dope fiend on the other hand that buys a fat albert here and there probably would get a night in jail and a fine.

Youre wrong. Like i said, according to federal law, there is no set amount that constitutes intent to distribute. They left it wide open.

DEA, Federal Trafficking Penalties

Note "other schedule III drugs:"

Other Schedule III drugs
Any amount


First Offense: Not more than 5 years. Fine not more than $250,000 if an individual, $1 million if not an individual.

Second Offense: Not more 10 yrs. Fine not more than $500,000 if an individual, $2 million if not an individual


You shouldnt doubt me, I make it a habit not to open my mouth unless im right.

 

[numba1scrapper]

Youre wrong. Like i said, according to federal law, there is no set amount that constitutes intent to distribute. They left it wide open.

DEA, Federal Trafficking Penalties

Note "other schedule III drugs:"

Other Schedule III drugs
Any amount


First Offense: Not more than 5 years. Fine not more than $250,000 if an individual, $1 million if not an individual.

Second Offense: Not more 10 yrs. Fine not more than $500,000 if an individual, $2 million if not an individual


You shouldnt doubt me, I make it a habit not to open my mouth unless im right.

Im not doubting you, once I read this post I decided to look this up myself and saw something different. Im gonna head to bed now, but tomm I will try and find the website I saw. It was similar to yours, but listed AAS in a catagory unlike the website you provided..... LOL, I thought you were gonna say "you shouldnt doubt me im a DEA agent" I was gonna be like wttff ha

 

[edogger]

Im not doubting you, once I read this post I decided to look this up myself and saw something different. Im gonna head to bed now, but tomm I will try and find the website I saw. It was similar to yours, but listed AAS in a catagory unlike the website you provided..... LOL, I thought you were gonna say "you shouldnt doubt me im a DEA agent" I was gonna be like wttff ha

shhhhhh, its a secret.


lol