Pic after Z gear

Do you really think that you couldn't do that without gear ?
I've seen a bunch of so called Z before and after pics... I can't say that any of them blew my hair back. All of the pics I saw could have been done in the gym without Z Lab gear.... No problem.
 
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Do you really think that you couldn't do that without gear ?
I've seen a bunch of so called Z before and after pics... I can't say that any of them blew my hair back. All of the pics I saw could have been done in the gym without Z Lab gear.... No problem.

I don't think it has anything to do with Z or any other gear for that matter.

There are just a lot of guys on here who take gear and don't look like they even train and that is the sad fact of it all!
 
yup, nothin crazy here, just a regular size dood (unless your age is like 65 - then id be impressed)...with hard lifting and good diet you could acheive far beyond this without gear bro #sorrymanjustsayin
 
I agree to all above its half asser's that don't do shit get juice and are now working hard and get results that could of been done with hard work anyways p.s. man you could of done that with cell tech and nitro tech
 
I don't think it has anything to do with Z or any other gear for that matter.

There are just a lot of guys on here who take gear and don't look like they even train and that is the sad fact of it all!

I havent been a member here for long and I would generally defer to those that have been here longer. I'm not slaming you Gunn but I agree with Cashout. There are a lot of guys that are using AAS that don't look like they have lifted more than a few months.

I have been shocked by some of the pics posted.
 
I havent been a member here for long and I would generally defer to those that have been here longer. I'm not slaming you Gunn but I agree with Cashout. There are a lot of guys that are using AAS that don't look like they have lifted more than a few months.

I have been shocked by some of the pics posted.

Farmer, you make a good point.

I am not singling out the OP exclusively by any means.

I am saying this place is full of guys who don't look like they have put any time at all into their training and ESPECIALLY their diet and who are running all kinds of gear.
 
and then there are guys who use test only for 5 weeks and cry that theres no gains. its not a miracle drug at all. it takes a great diet and great training to be a bb. gear helps a little bit for sure. but 20lbs you can gain by diet alone in my opinion
 
Farmer, you make a good point.

I am not singling out the OP exclusively by any means.

I am saying this place is full of guys who don't look like they have put any time at all into their training and ESPECIALLY their diet and who are running all kinds of gear.

I haven't been around too long either, but I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks this. I think if people would just make the effort to push hard in the gym AND with their diet and rest, they would be surprised just how quickly the body responds natty. I mean, I have put on almost 20 lbs natty in the last 6 weeks with bf staying the same...when I look at some of these 'first cycle' logs I'm like damn what's the point?

It's good to know that this isn't necessarily a reflection of the gear itself - as eventually I'll be deciding where to get my own.

:D
 
and then there are guys who use test only for 5 weeks and cry that theres no gains. its not a miracle drug at all. it takes a great diet and great training to be a bb. gear helps a little bit for sure. but 20lbs you can gain by diet alone in my opinion

Very true on both counts.

I haven't been around too long either, but I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks this. I think if people would just make the effort to push hard in the gym AND with their diet and rest, they would be surprised just how quickly the body responds natty. I mean, I have put on almost 20 lbs natty in the last 6 weeks with bf staying the same...when I look at some of these 'first cycle' logs I'm like damn what's the point?

It's good to know that this isn't necessarily a reflection of the gear itself - as eventually I'll be deciding where to get my own.

:D

Yup. Those are typically the logs where a guys decides that now he is serious and his diet will be "in check" and his training will be "in check."

BTW, I **hate** that expression!

Really, so you haven't ever had a diet worth a flip or trained worth a flip in your life but now since you have some gear, that's all going to change.....jeeeezzzz....
 
Pretty bad thread,,,not only does it makes the person posting the thread look bad, but Z as well. I think people are tired of the Z threads. If wasn't for Z I would not look like this lol
 
I don't think it has anything to do with Z or any other gear for that matter.

There are just a lot of guys on here who take gear and don't look like they even train and that is the sad fact of it all!

Nothing to do with Z or any other brand of gear - I said that in my first post in this thread.

Pretty bad thread,,,not only does it makes the person posting the thread look bad, but Z as well. I think people are tired of the Z threads. If wasn't for Z I would not look like this lol

My comments are directed toward the folks who ought not use/blame gear for their lack of commitment to building a quality physique.
 
I didn't mean to insult the guy.. He looks like he's been working out but he doesn't look like he's been using steroids of any kind. My comment about Z is just based on the title and what I've seen a read in the past. I know Z doesn't need my help to look bad but I don't mind chipping in since he decided to walk away with my cash a few month back...
 
I didn't mean to insult the guy.. He looks like he's been working out but he doesn't look like he's been using steroids of any kind. My comment about Z is just based on the title and what I've seen a read in the past. I know Z doesn't need my help to look bad but I don't mind chipping in since he decided to walk away with my cash a few month back...

hahaha..that made my day:) Thanks brutha!

You been mia lately..
 
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If you want to give your $$ away, there is better places to donate it to and that's not Jimbo wallet either :)

I didn't mean to insult the guy.. He looks like he's been working out but he doesn't look like he's been using steroids of any kind. My comment about Z is just based on the title and what I've seen a read in the past. I know Z doesn't need my help to look bad but I don't mind chipping in since he decided to walk away with my cash a few month back...
 
If you want to give your $$ away, there is better places to donate it to and that's not Jimbo wallet either :)

Yea, I was going to donate it to the Canadian straw hat kite flyers society but I was too greedy.. At least Jimbo would have spent it on something cool like one of those deep muscle massages.. lol

Or busty asian girl tennis lessons... :)
 
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