Turkey_535i
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Week 5 is the ideal time to get bloodwork done from what I've read on numerous sites.
Pinnacle blood work results
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surfdog
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it's your first cycle, I'm just making sure you did every thing right before you go blaming a lab for underdosed gear. lots of people do things incorrectly, even a few days here and there would change the outcome of it, it had nothing to do with intelligence....... if you did everything correctly then you know what time it is...... weren't they having issues with keeping e and c in stock when you placed your order? sounds logical to me
but you still might want to do another lab test in another couple weeks to make sure.
but you still might want to do another lab test in another couple weeks to make sure.
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Turkey_535i
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Yeah I understand, it is common sense though to not miss days and I didn't. I don't know what you mean about keeping E and C in stock, I ordered 4 vials of E and got them, I don't know anything about stocking issues they might have. And let's cut the shit, I'm not blaming any labs I'm posting my results and getting feedback. sounds logical to me.
As far as doing another lab in a couple weeks, I see no point, I'm going on 6 weeks in if it hasn't fully kicked in by now then I dunno what else to say, I won't be blowing another $50 of my hard earned money.
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Turkey_535i
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Yeah Metalhead I've talked to a few people on this forum that are veterans that have said the same, they are legit sources and that is pretty much what I went off of. There were a few other people and no I won't name any names that said they "suspect" it "might" be underdosed but hey that's their opinion too. I don't judge anything until I try it, as of now I'm not impressed much brother. :[
I hope other peoples bloodwork comes back and the results are great, at least that way I have a reason to continue using the other two vials. I have no reason or gain nothing from bashing or talking shit about anyone or anything I'm just sharing my experience.
Metalhead
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Totally understand bro. Just email jb and tell him or pikki whats up and see what they will do for you. I had a 4431 with 600mg/wk last month and hope you get the same end result bro
Turkey_535i
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Damnnn that is good to hear that you got those results! I honestly hope that everyone gets good results and maybe the lab fucked up or it was just a bad batch.
kamikaze
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Some of the gloom and doom people commenting crack me up. Pinn will fix any and all issues as long as you aren't a douchebag scammer. two months ago Pinn TestE 600 and deca 400, gave me 7300 test levels so its far from underdosed. A month ago it came back >1500, I wish could get the exact number everytime. Sorry about your issue Turkey, let us know when pinn makes good. Which they will..
Turkey_535i
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Awsome man, glad you got such great results, yeah I emailed pikiki now just have to play the waiting game I guess.
kaname
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I would guess it's just like any business. Sometimes a bad batch will come through. I look at the business as a whole though, as long as they fix any mistakes, and the bad batches are few and far in between, I'm happy. I'm sure every company experiences this, especially when you account for all the people who don't get blood tested, and never know for sure if their gear is underdosed.
Who was the company with an entire frog in their green beans, that was found by a mom and kid? Or was it a different food item? Point is every company runs into quality control issues or some mistakes here and there. Great customer service and a willingness to make things right / correct problems, keeps me going back to said company. Granted the frog thing would be a hell no, lawsuit time, never buying from them again.
Who was the company with an entire frog in their green beans, that was found by a mom and kid? Or was it a different food item? Point is every company runs into quality control issues or some mistakes here and there. Great customer service and a willingness to make things right / correct problems, keeps me going back to said company. Granted the frog thing would be a hell no, lawsuit time, never buying from them again.
DexterMorgan
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I've heard good things about this lab, maybe the purchase of bad raw materials from China what makes their gear under-dosed sometimes.
Turkey_535i
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Yeah I've talked to three people that are on the same batch as me, and two have said they haven't noticed many sides or obvious sides while on their cycle. They are both approaching week 5-6 as well. They are going to get blood work done soon also, if it comes back low then it could be a bad batch.
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Danielsu21
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^^^Same batch, will be getting bloodwork done on Friday.
halfwit
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Okay, a few things I noticed in this thread and think should be clarified before people go on a witch hunt:
1. EVERYONE will respond differently to exogenous testosterone. What gives Tom a total test of 3000, might give Jerry 1200ng/dL. It's not fair to poor Jerry, but there are things at play which we don't have control over such as body mass, genetic predispositions to react with drugs/substances and many other factors we don't fully understand yet. This is why most medicine literature is based on a 150lb male when it comes to dosing.
2. Your fasting glucose is fine since you weren't fasting. If it was 250+, I'd start worrying about seeing the doctor. In fact, 102 is more than fine given what you had that morning prior to the test Turkey.
3. 5 weeks is a GUIDE to when your test levels *should* be at a maximum from the injections. Some men take up to 7, some as soon as 3. Your LH still being where it's at tells me you haven't completely shut down yet, so I bet your total test is still climbing as I type this. If Pinn is willing to hook you up with another blood test, that's great! If not, I'd still get one in two weeks to make sure you have that E2 under control by then.
4. It is not in a company's best interest to sell bad products. If they want to have any sort of longevity in such a cutthroat business, providing great products with great customer service is key to maintaining a long-term relationship with a customer base, providing for a successful business model. Pinn has shown time and time again that they are willing to go that extra mile, especially in this thread.
5. No, 700mg/wk isn't going to kill you. I'd still hold off on increasing your dose though until Pikiki gets back to you just in case. If he gives you the green light to increase, go for it. You may just have a case of dumb receptors and a nice blast of an extra 200mg may liven things up. There's not a whole lot of science backing this yet, but I have heard of men being poor responders, and needing a higher front-load to start things off. Call it broscience or whatever, it's worth a thought imo.
Regardless of what happens in this thread, and the 20 ones like it that come up every so often (no disrespect intended friend) there's no reason to panic or think that one of the long standing labs that many have had great results from is going to shit. It kind of cracks me up to be honest when people are so quick to freak out and panic when they see something negative and start to quickly worry about their own stash. The fact that we've had reps in this thread shows to me that there is nothing to worry about, and if there was - it'll be handled. The sky isn't falling, so can we please go back to discussing anavar only cycles and 18 year olds with non-functioning dicks please? Wait.. did I just say I wanted to talk about dick? Errr, you get my drift I hope.
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1. EVERYONE will respond differently to exogenous testosterone. What gives Tom a total test of 3000, might give Jerry 1200ng/dL. It's not fair to poor Jerry, but there are things at play which we don't have control over such as body mass, genetic predispositions to react with drugs/substances and many other factors we don't fully understand yet. This is why most medicine literature is based on a 150lb male when it comes to dosing.
2. Your fasting glucose is fine since you weren't fasting. If it was 250+, I'd start worrying about seeing the doctor. In fact, 102 is more than fine given what you had that morning prior to the test Turkey.
3. 5 weeks is a GUIDE to when your test levels *should* be at a maximum from the injections. Some men take up to 7, some as soon as 3. Your LH still being where it's at tells me you haven't completely shut down yet, so I bet your total test is still climbing as I type this. If Pinn is willing to hook you up with another blood test, that's great! If not, I'd still get one in two weeks to make sure you have that E2 under control by then.
4. It is not in a company's best interest to sell bad products. If they want to have any sort of longevity in such a cutthroat business, providing great products with great customer service is key to maintaining a long-term relationship with a customer base, providing for a successful business model. Pinn has shown time and time again that they are willing to go that extra mile, especially in this thread.
5. No, 700mg/wk isn't going to kill you. I'd still hold off on increasing your dose though until Pikiki gets back to you just in case. If he gives you the green light to increase, go for it. You may just have a case of dumb receptors and a nice blast of an extra 200mg may liven things up. There's not a whole lot of science backing this yet, but I have heard of men being poor responders, and needing a higher front-load to start things off. Call it broscience or whatever, it's worth a thought imo.
Regardless of what happens in this thread, and the 20 ones like it that come up every so often (no disrespect intended friend) there's no reason to panic or think that one of the long standing labs that many have had great results from is going to shit. It kind of cracks me up to be honest when people are so quick to freak out and panic when they see something negative and start to quickly worry about their own stash. The fact that we've had reps in this thread shows to me that there is nothing to worry about, and if there was - it'll be handled. The sky isn't falling, so can we please go back to discussing anavar only cycles and 18 year olds with non-functioning dicks please? Wait.. did I just say I wanted to talk about dick? Errr, you get my drift I hope.
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Okay, a few things I noticed in this thread and think should be clarified before people go on a witch hunt:
1. EVERYONE will respond differently to exogenous testosterone. What gives Tom a total test of 3000, might give Jerry 1200ng/dL. It's not fair to poor Jerry, but there are things at play which we don't have control over such as body mass, genetic predispositions to react with drugs/substances and many other factors we don't fully understand yet. This is why most medicine literature is based on a 150lb male when it comes to dosing.
2. Your fasting glucose is fine since you weren't fasting. If it was 250+, I'd start worrying about seeing the doctor. In fact, 102 is more than fine given what you had that morning prior to the test Turkey.
3. 5 weeks is a GUIDE to when your test levels *should* be at a maximum from the injections. Some men take up to 7, some as soon as 3. Your LH still being where it's at tells me you haven't completely shut down yet, so I bet your total test is still climbing as I type this. If Pinn is willing to hook you up with another blood test, that's great! If not, I'd still get one in two weeks to make sure you have that E2 under control by then.
4. It is not in a company's best interest to sell bad products. If they want to have any sort of longevity in such a cutthroat business, providing great products with great customer service is key to maintaining a long-term relationship with a customer base, providing for a successful business model. Pinn has shown time and time again that they are willing to go that extra mile, especially in this thread.
5. No, 700mg/wk isn't going to kill you. I'd still hold off on increasing your dose though until Pikiki gets back to you just in case. If he gives you the green light to increase, go for it. You may just have a case of dumb receptors and a nice blast of an extra 200mg may liven things up. There's not a whole lot of science backing this yet, but I have heard of men being poor responders, and needing a higher front-load to start things off. Call it broscience or whatever, it's worth a thought imo.
Regardless of what happens in this thread, and the 20 ones like it that come up every so often (no disrespect intended friend) there's no reason to panic or think that one of the long standing labs that many have had great results from is going to shit. It kind of cracks me up to be honest when people are so quick to freak out and panic when they see something negative and start to quickly worry about their own stash. The fact that we've had reps in this thread shows to me that there is nothing to worry about, and if there was - it'll be handled. The sky isn't falling, so can we please go back to discussing anavar only cycles and 18 year olds with non-functioning dicks please? Wait.. did I just say I wanted to talk about dick? Errr, you get my drift I hope.
My .02c
It's about time I see you with all the greens you deserve
halfwit
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Crikey, I didn't even notice until you said something. O_O Thanks though <3It's about time I see you with all the greens you deserve
Turkey_535i
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Yeah halfwit always full of knowledge he the man, just gonna wait it out now I suppose, though I'm tempted to go shoot another 100mg now since I did my 250mg for yesterday lol.
halfwit
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romeo021095
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dam sucks to here this. have a stash waiting for me from pinn so now im worried. only one way to find out if its legit run that shit and get blood drawn so ill see when that happens
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