Post cycle therapy (pct) advice regarding hcg....

BossSauce

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pct advice regarding hcg....

i don't know if my source can get any hcg...he made it seem like it's tough to get. i haven't run it for the duration of my cycle. this will actually be my first post cycle therapy (pct) since i have only learned about it from this site. i have some liquid nolva and i'm running it now. if he could get some hcg, would it be worth it to run it at the end?

if he can get the hcg, it might take a few weeks or a month which is ok. if he can't though, will nolva or clomid be enough for post cycle therapy (pct). i want to keep as much of my gains as possible.
 
Re: pct advice regarding hcg....

BossSauce said:
i don't know if my source can get any hcg...he made it seem like it's tough to get. i haven't run it for the duration of my cycle. this will actually be my first post cycle therapy (pct) since i have only learned about it from this site. i have some liquid nolva and i'm running it now. if he could get some hcg, would it be worth it to run it at the end?

if he can get the hcg, it might take a few weeks or a month which is ok. if he can't though, will nolva or clomid be enough for post cycle therapy (pct). i want to keep as much of my gains as possible.
what is your cycle. and yes HCG will help a bit in recovering faster but it is not a must for mild cycles. If I took tren or deca then I would definetly use HCG.
 
Hcg is more for heavy cycles such as tren, deca etc...(like stonecold said)
I would run this if you are very suscable to tescular shrinkage. Other than that, i would test the waters without it first, to find out how the body reacts to the aas, then use these for the future.
 
i've been running winny/prop (50mg,100mg respectively) ed for 8 wks. i'm gonna run tren/prop for another 6-8 wks.
 
well, with Winstrol (winny) and prop, you definitely dont need it, but with the tren/prop, i would just wait it out and then do the HCG dosage that is reccommended at the end of a cycle....(ill find the link and post it for ya)...That is depending on the tren dosage and how it affects you. Some people have no probs on tren, yet some get shut down on tren..
 
stonecold54 said:
also if you are older I would definetly use it.

I'm in my 40's just did deca250mg/prop100mg per wk.
Now I'm doing deca300/winny150 (QV) per week for lets say 8weeks.
I will be adding say 100-200mg test per week
as soon as i get it.
Don't have any post cycle therapy (pct) !
Please advise me for my post cycle therapy (pct) or maybe anti estrogens during the cycle?

thanks
 
thanks for the help and links gymphreak. is the hcg absolutely neccessary though, or would clomid/nolva be adequate for post cycle therapy (pct)? i want to do everything right though, so if i need hcg i'll do it. also, are the liquid nolva/clomid good enough?
 
gymphreak BTW i am printing all those
links and will read it on my commute to work .
I commute a total of 4.5 hr/day , car train , bus
so plenty of time to read.
 
glad i could help guys...

Bosssauce...I dont see a full reasoning to use HCG unless you are getting into Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) that are notorous for causing problems with your members such as Deca. (deca dick as many know it as...)
but for one, i dont think you really need it as tren might not be as harsh (as i said it varies from person to person), so....the entire judgement is up to you. The testicles will eventually return to normal with a Nolva or clomid post cycle therapy (pct), but HCG just speeds up the process much much faster. Ive heard of people running HCG at the end of their cycle to get their nuts back before they start post cycle therapy (pct). Im not entirely sure about the way they run HCG after a cycle, but if you are to decide to run HCG, id advise you to run it during the cycle for a better result.
 
Stan--id definitely run HCG during the deca cycle, and as for post cycle therapy (pct), Nolva or clomid is the way to go!
I dont believe that you should get into anti-e's as it controls bloat and estrogen conversion, so id stick to not using a-dex or the likings of that, unless you are very prone to bloat and have experience with bloat and how to treat them. Anti-e's are pretty expensive, so i would just save the money and use it for aas.
I just would highly reccommend you to stop doing cycles without having the proper post cycle therapy (pct)'s and facts down straight!

A rule of thumb is to have all the post cycle therapy (pct) ready (enough to run for the whole duration of your cycle as well as post cycle therapy (pct)) before you start your cycle.
 
P.s. stan-- bloat goes away relatively soon after a cycle ends, so its not something to worry about...
 
BossSauce said:
how the hell do you find time to train working 8 hrs and commuting 4.5?

up at 5:15
LEAVE at 6:00AM
come back at 6:00PM straight to gym for 1hr back home by 7:15

in bed by 9:15PM

family time ? what family time?
 
bro, no offense, but do you have your entire diet dialed down and all? eating enough for mass gains, drinking enough water, etc....the reason im asking is because i dont want to see you end up wasting your money for Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) without doing everything right...
it doesent seem like you have time to cook all the food and all...
 
yeah, but this is my 1st experience w/pct, and all i know is what i've learned from the site & guys like you helping out. is just the nolva or clomid good enough for keeping gains?
 
yes
nolva or clomid for the normal post cycle therapy (pct) standards are good for keeping gains providing that your diet is good at all times along with training.

Heres a link for proper post cycle therapy (pct) durations:

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40329

Also, a rule of thumb is that you should have enough of either clomid or nolva to run the duration of the entire cycle of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and the normal post cycle therapy (pct) after (due to the fact that if gyno symptoms appear, you must get on post cycle therapy (pct) for the rest of your cycle and then get onto your post cycle therapy (pct)..)
 
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