Post cycle therapy (pct) did not work, libido is shot after superdrol..

[xams2387]

PCT did not work, libido is shot after superdrol..

Okay so I am currently on my 2nd post cycle therapy (pct) for a heavy and dumb cycle. The cycle was started the first of March and went as follows:
Stanodrol 800mg WEEK 1-8
Superdrol 20/20/30/30 WEEK 5-8
Dzine 30 WEEK 5-7
M14ADD 90 mg WEEK 5-8

So i gained alot of muscle, but thats not what I care about at this point. I finished up the cycle towards the end of April and did a 3 week Clomid post cycle therapy (pct) at 150/100/50. I also took activate extreme, unleashed, and then after those 2, I finished up with Isa Test. My libido was next to nothing all of the cycle and through post cycle therapy (pct) and then after post cycle therapy (pct). After the post cycle therapy (pct) I just took OTC products to help restart test but nothing worked. So, now i am starting week 4 of a Clomid/Torem 100/50/25/25 120/90/90/90 post cycle therapy (pct) (2nd post cycle therapy (pct)) to help restore libido and natty test. My libido is still shot but i wake up with morning wood most days now, and was finally able to get it up for sex for a few days last week. My nuts have also gotten bigger but no sensitivity downstairs and no drive or urge to have sex. I basically had to fake the pleasure. I also am finishing up another bottle of Isa Test, Maca, Libido XY, Formadrol Xtreme, and Reversitol V2. I have Activate Xtreme and Unleashed arriving in the mail in the next few days. I have also thrown in a little prami .5mg EOD and adex .25mg EOD.

Basically what I am asking is whether or not my post cycle therapy (pct) looks good, what you guys think I should be doing and continue to do. I will most likely never run another cycle. This was my 2nd cycle-1st was last September Hdrol/Epi 5 weeks and used Reversitol v2 and Formadrol Xtreme and recovered towards the end of post cycle therapy (pct).

I know it was a dumb cycle but i havent had a drive for atleast 3 months and its worrying me. Am i on the right track? Suggestions?

 

[ryansm]

That was an extensive cycle with a lot of methyls if you go with a similar one in the future I advise you look into hcg. I would run clomid again for 4 weeks and for libido look into DAA and Sustain Alpha TD both are great for that purpose. Why the prami and adex?

 

[xams2387]

That was an extensive cycle with a lot of methyls if you go with a similar one in the future I advise you look into hcg. I would run clomid again for 4 weeks and for libido look into DAA and Sustain Alpha TD both are great for that purpose. Why the prami and adex?

I forgot i also have DAA coming in today actually. I will run that as well. Well i just figured superdrol was a prolactin causing supp so the prami might help with that and libido. Adex because alot of people run Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in post cycle therapy (pct) but maybe i shouldnt?

 

[Big Hungry]

clomid is good to get yur test going again. try that before overdoing it with all the other stuff

 

[xams2387]

clomid is good to get yur test going again. try that before overdoing it with all the other stuff

Tomorrow will be my 28th day of Torem and 25th day of Clomid. What doses do you reccomend? Should I go past 4 weeks? Most people only take clomid for 3 weeks. Does libido temporarily decrease while on SERMs and come back after, or is that a myth?

 

[mlupi319]

Get blood test...otherwise every response is going to be a guess

 

[darkside06]

you may want to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), i bet your E levels are way higher than your natty test. it's called Estro rebound. When you get off a cycle like that your natty test is fully supressed and your estro rises....will cause serious libido issues. Keep pounding the clomid and get on an AI.

 

[xams2387]

you may want to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), i bet your E levels are way higher than your natty test. it's called Estro rebound. When you get off a cycle like that your natty test is fully supressed and your estro rises....will cause serious libido issues. Keep pounding the clomid and get on an AI.

I am on formadrol extreme as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and Isa Test also blocks 43% of etrogen it says but I bet thats in rare situations. I thought Torem and Clomid blocked estrogen as well?

 

[FormerFatty]

Chlomid fills in the receptors but free estrogen will still be high, once you stop the chlomid the estro will be plentiful and waiting to bind. But like what was said you need a blood test

 

[clsmth700]

get to your MD & tell him what happen

get labs

and maybe HCG

 

[Ironfit]

Okay so I am currently on my 2nd post cycle therapy (pct) for a heavy and dumb cycle. The cycle was started the first of March and went as follows:
Stanodrol 800mg WEEK 1-8
Superdrol 20/20/30/30 WEEK 5-8
Dzine 30 WEEK 5-7
M14ADD 90 mg WEEK 5-8

So i gained alot of muscle, but thats not what I care about at this point. I finished up the cycle towards the end of April and did a 3 week Clomid post cycle therapy (pct) at 150/100/50. I also took activate extreme, unleashed, and then after those 2, I finished up with Isa Test. My libido was next to nothing all of the cycle and through post cycle therapy (pct) and then after post cycle therapy (pct). After the post cycle therapy (pct) I just took OTC products to help restart test but nothing worked. So, now i am starting week 4 of a Clomid/Torem 100/50/25/25 120/90/90/90 post cycle therapy (pct) (2nd post cycle therapy (pct)) to help restore libido and natty test. My libido is still shot but i wake up with morning wood most days now, and was finally able to get it up for sex for a few days last week. My nuts have also gotten bigger but no sensitivity downstairs and no drive or urge to have sex. I basically had to fake the pleasure. I also am finishing up another bottle of Isa Test, Maca, Libido XY, Formadrol Xtreme, and Reversitol V2. I have Activate Xtreme and Unleashed arriving in the mail in the next few days. I have also thrown in a little prami .5mg EOD and adex .25mg EOD.

Basically what I am asking is whether or not my post cycle therapy (pct) looks good, what you guys think I should be doing and continue to do. I will most likely never run another cycle. This was my 2nd cycle-1st was last September Hdrol/Epi 5 weeks and used Reversitol v2 and Formadrol Xtreme and recovered towards the end of post cycle therapy (pct).

I know it was a dumb cycle but i havent had a drive for atleast 3 months and its worrying me. Am i on the right track? Suggestions?

Yup, very heavy cycle, do not expect to recover so fast. I would suggest to control cortisol and probably a test booster to see what happens next. get bloodwork done if possible and if you are not recovered i would suggest that you restart the clomid for another 4 weeks tapering (be sure you have a legit source).

Do not take any anti aromataze inhibitor.

You learned the bad way but you learned, next time plan it carefully, just calm a little bit, recovery takes around 1-3 months.

 

[xams2387]

Yup, very heavy cycle, do not expect to recover so fast. I would suggest to control cortisol and probably a test booster to see what happens next. get bloodwork done if possible and if you are not recovered i would suggest that you restart the clomid for another 4 weeks tapering (be sure you have a legit source).

Do not take any anti aromataze inhibitor.



You learned the bad way but you learned, next time plan it carefully, just calm a little bit, recovery takes around 1-3 months.

Take 4 more weeks of clomid? Just finishing up 2nd post cycle therapy (pct) of 4 weeks of clomid and Torem...u think i need 8 weeks of clomid??

 

[xams2387]

get to your MD & tell him what happen

get labs

and maybe HCG

thought Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) was only for during cycle?

 

[Ironfit]

Take 4 more weeks of clomid? Just finishing up 2nd post cycle therapy (pct) of 4 weeks of clomid and Torem...u think i need 8 weeks of clomid??

Thats why you need to get bloodwork done, specially after a huge cycle like this. only then you will know where to move. if you are not recovered a clomid restart will may work well for you. but you need to be sure. be sure your source is legit too.

 

[xams2387]

Thats why you need to get bloodwork done, specially after a huge cycle like this. only then you will know where to move. if you are not recovered a clomid restart will may work well for you. but you need to be sure. be sure your source is legit too.

True, my junk is fuller and i get morning wood and can kinda get it up on my own. Just no drive. Gonna drop the SERMs and see what happens.

 

[xams2387]

Im using lean extreme for cortisol, and will continue with DAA, horny goat weed, Libido XY, and low dosed Formadrol Extreme.

 

[ryansm]

True, my junk is fuller and i get morning wood and can kinda get it up on my own. Just no drive. Gonna drop the SERMs and see what happens.

I would titrate the dose down slowly especially with DAA in the picture

 

[juced_porkchop]

Okay so I am currently on my 2nd PCT for a heavy and dumb cycle. The cycle was started the first of March and went as follows:
Stanodrol 800mg WEEK 1-8
Superdrol 20/20/30/30 WEEK 5-8
Dzine 30 WEEK 5-7
M14ADD 90 mg WEEK 5-8

So i gained alot of muscle, but thats not what I care about at this point. I finished up the cycle towards the end of April and did a 3 week Clomid PCT at 150/100/50. I also took activate extreme, unleashed, and then after those 2, I finished up with Isa Test. My libido was next to nothing all of the cycle and through PCT and then after post cycle therapy (pct). After the PCT I just took OTC products to help restart test but nothing worked. So, now i am starting week 4 of a Clomid/Torem 100/50/25/25 120/90/90/90 PCT (2nd PCT) to help restore libido and natty test. My libido is still shot but i wake up with morning wood most days now, and was finally able to get it up for sex for a few days last week. My nuts have also gotten bigger but no sensitivity downstairs and no drive or urge to have sex. I basically had to fake the pleasure. I also am finishing up another bottle of Isa Test, Maca, Libido XY, Formadrol Xtreme, and Reversitol V2. I have Activate Xtreme and Unleashed arriving in the mail in the next few days. I have also thrown in a little prami .5mg EOD and adex .25mg EOD.

Basically what I am asking is whether or not my PCT looks good, what you guys think I should be doing and continue to do. I will most likely never run another cycle. This was my 2nd cycle-1st was last September Hdrol/Epi 5 weeks and used Reversitol v2 and Formadrol Xtreme and recovered towards the end of PCT.

I know it was a dumb cycle but i havent had a drive for atleast 3 months and its worrying me. Am i on the right track? Suggestions?

stop taking all that crap your talking about, you run a pct then you wait. taking all this herbal/chem stuff thats "supposed to" boost test might not be helping you and might make things harder due to soem things that might be in them.

run 30-50mg clomid for 3-4 weeks wait a couple weeks after that and then go for blood test. dont takeANY TEST BOOSTING NOTHING!
stay away from all gimmick blended herbal stuff while in PCT unless you KNOW EXACTLY whats in it and know what it does (each compound nto whats on the bottle (AND NOT FROM THEM TELLING YOU, BUT FROM REAL RESEARCH)

HCG could have helped but not IN post cycle therapy (pct), in pct it is kind of pointless if you are going to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to try and help then hold off on clomid run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for 4-6 weeks at 500iu 2X a week, then starting a couple days after last Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) shot start up the clomid 50mg ed for 3-4 weeks, wait a couple weeks after finished and if you still thimk you have issues get blood work and take nothing else till then.

and also dont do oral only cycles and never stack a bunch of them, not good for you.

Good luck!

ohh and grabbing liquidV or CIA from RUI while you are sorting this out might help if you have a wife or GF so just a thought.

 

[noway55]

superdrol is some serious shit

 

[MMA732]

Besides Clomid, I recommend some BPS Endosurge on an empty stomach to see what gives as it stimulates dopamine production and lowers prolactin, superdrol does have progesterone binding effects. HCGenerate can be of benefit to the libido as well.