Okay so it's been 2 weeks since I stopped the SERMs. I have been taking Unleashed Horny Goat Weed Activate Xtreme and DAA ever since then. My libido has gotten slightly better but nothing very noticeable. I still have low energy and motivation and my nuts are not as big as they should be. I'm really at a loss. I am setting up a doc meeting today so hopefully soon I can figure out what is going on.
Post cycle therapy (pct) did not work, libido is shot after superdrol..
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AndroSport
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I will 2nd what JP said. Isa Test (which I am not a fan of) and all this other extra stuff can't be doing a whole lot of good. Standard post cycle therapy (pct) makes it easy to identify what is working and what isn't. Like running early on cycles you stick to the basics so you can tell how each compound is affecting you. I had taken isa test once after a long long break from everything and went to get a lab taken and my fucking test levels were in the goddamn gutter... I'm talking WAY down. This shit can't be helping and if it is then i was mysteriously completely shut down for no reason before that - which I know wasn't true. I only trust what is proven.
Oh - and no flaming intended here as it seems you are learning from this a bit - but stay away from the PH crap man. People do it so they can say they've never used AAS or because they are scared to use AAS or a million other reasons but out of all the guys I know who have used these the results they got were very minor compared to a BASIC AAS cycle yet the PH SHUT THEM THE FUCK DOWN on their natural levels as bad OR WORSE than real AAS.
Hopefully other people considering that route come take a look at this thread beforehand.
If you're still having problems then drop all the "natural booster" shit and "herbal crap" stick with the basic post cycle therapy (pct) compounds. Most are OK with nolva only after a PH cycle but you did a ton of PH here. So nolva & clomid only should help... then wait it out. Id say HCG but your nuts aren't BB's so IDK. In the mean time if you need libido support run some of the V or C from site sponsor RUI while things pick back up. post cycle therapy (pct) is never perfect for the most part and sometime you gotta roll with the lows that you created from the highs.
Not sure i added anything new here but stick with it man... life isn't over and you will get better. One good thing about that you're running PH is you can openly discuss with the doctor because its not illegal.
Oh - and no flaming intended here as it seems you are learning from this a bit - but stay away from the PH crap man. People do it so they can say they've never used AAS or because they are scared to use AAS or a million other reasons but out of all the guys I know who have used these the results they got were very minor compared to a BASIC AAS cycle yet the PH SHUT THEM THE FUCK DOWN on their natural levels as bad OR WORSE than real AAS.
Hopefully other people considering that route come take a look at this thread beforehand.
If you're still having problems then drop all the "natural booster" shit and "herbal crap" stick with the basic post cycle therapy (pct) compounds. Most are OK with nolva only after a PH cycle but you did a ton of PH here. So nolva & clomid only should help... then wait it out. Id say HCG but your nuts aren't BB's so IDK. In the mean time if you need libido support run some of the V or C from site sponsor RUI while things pick back up. post cycle therapy (pct) is never perfect for the most part and sometime you gotta roll with the lows that you created from the highs.
Not sure i added anything new here but stick with it man... life isn't over and you will get better. One good thing about that you're running PH is you can openly discuss with the doctor because its not illegal.
Okay the doc took a blood test but only for thyroid liver kidney etc. she said that if anything is wrong with those then they can test testosterone etc. I told her about the supplements I took about 4 months ago and she decided to prescribe me with an anti depressant... Not sure why. Any input on what just happened ?
BeastinTheEast
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You're libido would return on a post cycle therapy (pct) but with the cycle you ran it would of had to of been a higher dosed post cycle therapy (pct) and longer duration.
Get some clomid like mentioned above, your doctor probably prescribed you the anti-depressant as a "patch on the tire" sort of thing but you obviously have an idea what the real problem is. Hopefully clomid will help you out, it should!
I appreciate the help guys, I have also thought that shut down is shut down so why would you need more and longer clomid usage?
MattPorter
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I would highly suggest Topical Sustain Alpha Gel for solely libido purposes and mood enhancing effects.
trying the entire testosterone recovery stack has shown vast elevations in total T levels in 4 weeks.
Try running 25 mgs of exemestane alongside it...
-Matt
I think my testosterone is back up guys. Nuts are full. Drive is getting better everyday. Libido is increasing as well. Thank you for the help. I'll update in a few more weeks as well.
I have another cycle planned for November I was thinking: 11Oxo weeks 1-6 500mg, Stanodrol weeks 1-5 600mg, Epistane weeks 1-5 45 mg. what do you think?
I have another cycle planned for November I was thinking: 11Oxo weeks 1-6 500mg, Stanodrol weeks 1-5 600mg, Epistane weeks 1-5 45 mg. what do you think?
mlupi319
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I think you're an idiot
Hull Tech
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^ what he said.. you've just started to recover from that last monstrosity of a cycle and now your planning another wholly silly cycle in 3 months.. I bet you won't even be fully recovered/healed by Nov. I hope you don't go around recommending cycles and post cycle therapy (pct) to other people.
ryand
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Because your doctor is a fucking moron.
Have her refer you to the endocrinologist she obviously has no idea wtf she's doing when it comes to endo. That's why she's a general practitioner.
Anti depressants....lol jesus christ. She prob didn't listen to anything you said and assumed you can't perform because of stress/depression. Personally I wouldn't have got that script filled. I would have crumbled it in front of her.
MattPorter
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Focus on getting your blood work perfect before day dreaming about your next cycle -- As fun as cycle planning is -- it is NOT fun having detrimental hormone levels from reckless cycle planning including using harsh compounds without the necessary precautions.
-Matt
Yeah I agree the anti depressants are not what I wanted. No need to be harsh calling me an idiot. We all learn from mistakes as you have too I'm sure. The cycle was meant to be run way later down the road but after all the hassle I'm not going to even consider more cycles.
I may have spoke too soon with the libido return. All my drive and happiness stems from a high libido because it makes me happy and want to go out etc socialize. Just need to give it some time. One currently in AZ on vacation and get back in a week so I might jump on some clomid and torem for a bit then.
I may have spoke too soon with the libido return. All my drive and happiness stems from a high libido because it makes me happy and want to go out etc socialize. Just need to give it some time. One currently in AZ on vacation and get back in a week so I might jump on some clomid and torem for a bit then.
KobesBryant
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You should not have left the doctor's office without getting testosterone test done, and probably some others like estrogen etc. You need to get proper bloodwork done. One option is to use labcorp. You can get your work done pretty cheap. I forget how much it costs, somewhere from 60-120, but it's well worth it. Check out this thread.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/588322-get-blood-work-done-cheap.html
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/588322-get-blood-work-done-cheap.html
KobesBryant
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Ok so it posted looking like an advertisement, but it is not. The link is to a thread on this site.
ryand
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lmao.....
ryand
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Maybe she wasn't so crazy after all....
I mean judging by your posts you seem to be very mentally stable lol.
Don't consider another cycle until you're back to normal and don't start another cycle until you understand what you are doing. Done.
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