I had some so called pink thais(without the snake) at 50mg a day I took for about 3 weeks, however because I did not feel lower back pump or the head ache and the other sides I threw them away. I am also lactose intolarant, I doubt that has anything to do with it, since I don't really have milk products that often, besides the protien shake with lactade ensyme tabs. or It might be that because hamburger meat is processed. Damn it I hope my liver is not fucked up or something.